Joey Slye is tied for 26th in FG percentage this year

[The Huddler]

I TOLD YALL HE IS TRASH

[top dawg]

6 hours ago, onmyown said:

It’s been discussed.

Slye is a rookie, isn’t paid to be a top 5 kicker with bottom half stats, and is attempting kicks we for seasons avoided with Gano. Gano is a seasoned vet and was over paid. 

I think everyone just has lower expectations for Slye vs. thinking he has the long term solution. He has the leg power which you can’t teach. The things he needs to work on he will.

The real tragedy is Butker. Rivera seems to favor Gano to a fault but wouldn’t ever attempt 35-45 year sets with him.

First: Gano kicked plenty of long FGs.

Second: Butker was not the answer. He has missed his share, particularly during crunch time. He was a key reason KC was booted out the playoffs one season.

[Jus Rob]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Apparently you didn't.

The Rams also missed a field goal.

I thought this conversation was about our kicker missing fg? He could've sent the game into ot

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Jus Rob said:

I thought this conversation was about our kicker missing fg? He could've sent the game into ot

We miss. They miss. It's even.

You can't pin it on the kicker in that situation.

[onmyown]

12 minutes ago, top dawg said:

First: Gano kicked plenty of long FGs.

Second: Butker was not the answer. He has missed his share, particularly during crunch time. He was a key reason KC was booted out the playoffs last season.

I didn’t say long FGs, I said intermediate. I remember Rivera always avoiding 35-45 yard FGs for like two seasons.

But this all has to be put into context; years in the league, confidence in kicks/importance of said kick (choking) and most importantly your salary vs. production. I’d rather a kicker make 1/4 being the game winner vs. make 3/4 and lose the game winner. Stats don’t tell you this.
 

Butker and Slye May not be the answers and they may miss kicks BUT they were/are young and their salaries are nothing compared to Gano. They’ll improve over time. Gano is what he is. It’s not as simple as this kicker’s stats vs. that kicker.

At the end of the day I think we should move on from Gano and if that means everyone else too I’m fine wit that as well. I agree we should pay top $ for a kicker as long as that kicker is a top kicker.

Gano is the type of player Rivera would drag out years past his prime and not know when to let go and move forward with a riskier rookie - whether he was the long term answer or not - to find the long term solution.

[Mr. Scot]

I think at this point it's safe to consider Gano as "moved on from".

[onmyown]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think at this point it's safe to consider Gano as "moved on from".

With Rivera it’s never safe.

[Tepper's Chest Hair]

 

There are some things to consider.  Slye is tied for number 1 in the NFL for 50+ yard FG attempts and outright number 1 in 40-49 yard attempts.  5 kickers have more than 4 50+ yard attempts.

Prater DET - 5-6

Maher DAL 4-7

Slye CAR 4-7

Bryant ATL 2-6

Fairbairn 2-5

 

Sly has 21 total attempts with 15 being 40+.  Kickers with high FG% don't seem to rely on the long FGs.  They get regular short shots.

If you look at the top 10 FG% kickers, they are all getting ones in the 20-29 yard range (where Slye isn't getting much action), and only 1 of the top 10 FG% kickers has more than 2 50+ attempts.

The major issue I see is why aren't moving the ball well enough to regularly give Slye the 20-39 yard shots, having to rely more on 40+ ones.  Kickers with high FG% typically have those in the 20-39 range.  Butker, for example has 7 attempts in 20-29, 6 in 30-39, 9 total in 40+.  We are putting more pressure on our kicker in long ball situation than probably any other team in the NFL.  Because our offense sputters out and we can't move the ball.

[CRA]

33 minutes ago, Sam Mills Fan said:

He's 15/21 for a percentage of 71%. 20/22 on extra points.

Gano, the guy that was getting death threats the past few years, was 14/16 on field goals last year for a percentage of 88% and 13th in the league.

Remind me why we all hate Gano yet worship Slye again?

EDIT: Slye has missed twice as many field goals this year as Gano missed in 2017 and 2018...combined.

are we counting free kicks and blocks as misses? 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

I think a couple of thoughts (at least 2) can be due to having to kick so it wasn’t blocked.  In my mind, (which is the only one I have to satisfy I this case) I do t count those.  He’s not terrible but not great either.  Hope he gets better and gets better blocking.  

[Anybodyhome]

Slye was a 70% guy in college. Slye is a 70% guy in the NFL. What were you expecting?

And the same idiots who continue to throw shade at Gano probably think Kasay was the GOAT, although his ill-timed kickoff OB likely cost Carolina a Super Bowl title.

[*FreeFua*]

Adam Vinatieri wasn’t very good his rookie year either.

[micnificent28]

Gano is getting the same treatment Cam is getting. The older more expensive injured option vs hey "we can save a dollar and get bye with a lesser slightly worse(much worse) brand. What do we need this guy for" it's a what have done for me lately league" lately Slye has been on the field and the team is winning, so he must be good right?

[ecu88]

Stats:

 

1 50+ miss was a weird rare free kick. Surprised it counted as a miss because idk weird rule (TB game).

1 kick blocked then another impacted (Jville game killed him, 2 FGs 1pa). Campbell owned us that game plus Dwill60 sucked majorily.

Take out the weird and 1 horrible game, you get a 85% FG which is not bad at all. 

But if you are going to rag him, be honest in your context first.