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Tua at #3 (Trade Up)


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I don’t know if I’d want this as the price could be high but I did have a dream that it happened. So there’s that.

I also figure this can consolidate the Tua specific conversation and see what people think. Many think he’d be hands down #1 overall if he didn’t go down so I wonder how teams will look at him if his recovery checks out in March per the reported medical follow up he’s due.

He has a really refined game and I just think could be worth the gamble. In an early reboot, I think it’s the most opportune time to take a boom/bust at the most critical position.

whatsayyou?

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Just now, saX man said:

I don’t know if I’d want this as the price could be high but I did have a dream that it happened. So there’s that.

I also figure this can consolidate the Tua specific conversation and see what people think. Many think he’d be hands down #1 overall if he didn’t go down so I wonder how teams will look at him if his medical small check out in March per the reported medical follow up he’s due.

He has a really refined game and I just think could be worth the gamble. In an early reboot, I think it’s the most opportune time to take a boom/bust at the most critical position.

whatsayyou?



Alabama QBs. No thanks. Think the Tua hype is overblown.

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i'm in but i don't know if we can get him.   they say his positivity is infectious just like our coach.  i think he'd be perfect.  and he's not the same alabama qb from the past.  saban finally learned.   i hope this happens but i doubt it will

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Pretty much all you need to tell me to lose my interest in a 1st round prospect is that he has that Bo Jackson hip injury.

”Oh he’s got that thing that killed Bo’s career? Yeah no, hard pass. If he’s around in the third round maybe, but otherwise show me what you’ve got in a nice left tackle or maybe an elite corner, I’m good.”

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who is a really good qb with crappy receivers?  just curious.   and to his hip injury, it got dealt with right away, unlike how bo treated his.  doesn't mean he won't have issues but we don't know yet.   his tissue may all be fine for 10 years

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10 minutes ago, qazsazsaz said:

Tua had 3 first round nfl receivers to throw to and a dominant O-line. I can't trust a guy who's never been challenged to succeed.

I mean Watson played on a loaded Clemson team and he’s still good as hell.  

Tua had a great team around him but he still balled out.  There’s a reason he was seen as a first round talent and not Hurts. 

The only reason I’d pass is due to his medical but he’s far better than any QB Alabama has had in years.

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I don’t think he’d necessarily be #1 overall without the injury. Burrow is impressive.

If we can get him without trading up, I’m all about it. If we can get him by trading up just a couple spots, I’d be cool with it. Not so hot on trading up into the t3 though.

Hopefully somebody falls in love with Herbert.

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IF we don’t plan to tank for Trevor (which I’m honestly convinced will happen—look at Rhule’s past first seasons as HC and we have no QB and a relatively poor roster)

then I’d be all for targeting Tua. The hip is definitely a big risk but probably worth it for a guy who when healthy would likely go 1st or 2nd overall. I’d prefer we get a shot at 7 but would consider trading up if we don’t give up any picks from next year’s draft.

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18 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Pretty much all you need to tell me to lose my interest in a 1st round prospect is that he has that Bo Jackson hip injury.

”Oh he’s got that thing that killed Bo’s career? Yeah no, hard pass. If he’s around in the third round maybe, but otherwise show me what you’ve got in a nice left tackle or maybe an elite corner, I’m good.”

This is overly simplistic and doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

1. He’s a QB, not a RB. Just like an injury to a throwing shoulder will be much more serious to a QB than a RB.

2. Even with the same injury, there’s other factors to consider. Nerve damage, etc.

3. He will be evaluated by doctors. I’m pretty sure everybody is on board with not touching him with a ten foot pole if we don’t like what we hear from doctors. So your proposing that this freak injury that will likely never happen again should take him off our draft boards even if the doctors say there is no nerve damage, he will make a full recovery, not have limitations, etc. If the recovery prognosis is the same as Bo Jackson’s, literally nobody will want him.

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