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The Perfect Draft (If Cam Comes Back 100% Healthy)

Pantha-kun

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1 hour ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

If Cam is healthy .. we want to make damn sure he will be protected .. so we will put our faith in a ... rookie Tackle ..

So how many A grade top 10 pick rookie tackles dont come in and start? Do they normally ride the bench? 

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1 hour ago, Everfrost said:

I like moving him to guard

Greg Little has (1) never played OG in college or in the pros and (2) doesn’t have the mental want-to to play an even MORE physical position than he’s already playing.

 Little was soft in college and is still soft in the pros. He’s always had amazing talent and he got by on that in college but his attitude has and will continue to hold him back in the pros. He’s no longer automatically more talented than the guy he’s looking up across anyone. In fact, he’s more than likely LESS talented than that guy.  That’s when desire and work-ethic come in, somethings of which Little has always been lacking.

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3 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

Greg Little has (1) never played OG in college or in the pros and (2) doesn’t have the mental want-to to play an even MORE physical position than he’s already playing.

 Little was soft in college and is still soft in the pros. He’s always had amazing talent and he got by on that in college but his attitude has and will continue to hold him back in the pros. He’s no longer automatically more talented than the guy he’s looking up across anyone. In fact, he’s more than likely LESS talented than that guy.  That’s when desire and work-ethic come in, somethings of which Little has always been lacking.

Little is still very much an unknown in the NFL .. he is 22 - he's a kid still .. it's just as likely he becomes an All-Pro as it is he becomes Amini Silotolu at this juncture.

It may not be smart to bet on Little being a solid lineman ... but it is not smart to bet on him not becoming a solid lineman, either.

 

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20 minutes ago, davos said:

I mean, we don't have an LT, LG, C, TE, WR2, NT, Base DE, LB minus Shaq along with a coaching staff full of guys completely green when it comes to the NFL level.  There's some pretty substantial holes and overall question marks.  I can see us surprising some depending on what shakes out but I have no idea what type of team we're about to roll out.  We're down to the studs minus Moore, CMC and Shaq. 

Not to mention the secondary, which is in shambles as well.

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35 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Not to mention the secondary, which is in shambles as well.

Truth.  Our CB2, NB, and Reid are coming back but all are spotty and inconsistent .  Luke & Jackson still have a lot of potential though.

Stinky indeed.  

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1 hour ago, davos said:

I mean, we don't have an LT, LG, C, TE, WR2, NT, Base DE, LB minus Shaq along with a coaching staff full of guys completely green when it comes to the NFL level.  There's some pretty substantial holes and overall question marks.  I can see us surprising some depending on what shakes out but I have no idea what type of team we're about to roll out.  We're down to the studs minus Moore, CMC and Shaq. 

Hence why the bottom line for me is that, given the uncertainty surrounding him, I don't thank you can plan to base any decisions in this draft on Cam Newton.

If his status is resolved by then maybe, but we don't know that.

My guess for the moment is that the draft will just have to be based around general team building.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Hence why the bottom line for me is that, given the uncertainty surrounding him, I don't thank you can plan to base any decisions in this draft on Cam Newton.

If his status is resolved by then maybe, but we don't know that.

My guess for the moment is that the draft will just have to be based around general team building.

I see a scenario like the following shaping up:

1-CIN selects Burrow (QB)

2-WAS selects Young (DE)

3-Trade-MIA selects Tua (QB)

4-Trade-LAC selects Herbert (QB)

5-DET selects Okudah (CB)

6-NYG selects Isaiah Simmons (LB)

 

This leaves it to us having pickings for any OL but holy guacamole, Derrick Brown would be incredible. The guy has been virtually unblockable the past two seasons. I just see a bit more overall value added to the team and the guy is a leader, not to mentions brings an incredible amount of energy to the field which we are in dire need for. Thomas is the only sure fire LT IMO and we have so many needs. It's early to project but I think it's shaping up to be Brown.

 

We need to find a top talent that is a true team lead. Brown fits that. Only a few other non-QBs do in this class IMO. There's some great team captains in the mid-ranks but if we're talking non-QB leaders with all-pro talent, you've got Young, Simmons & Brown. They carried their locker rooms.

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1 minute ago, davos said:

I see a scenario like the following shaping up:

1-CIN selects Burrow (QB)

2-WAS selects Young (DE)

3-Trade-MIA selects Tua (QB)

4-Trade-LAC selects Herbert (QB)

5-DET selects Okudah (CB)

6-NYG selects Isaiah Simmons (LB)

 

This leaves it to us having pickings for any OL but holy guacamole, Derrick Brown would be incredible. The guy has been virtually unblockable the past two seasons. I just see a bit more overall value added to the team and the guy is a leader, not to mentions brings an incredible amount of energy to the field which we are in dire need for. Thomas is the only sure fire LT IMO and we have so many needs. It's early to project but I think it's shaping up to be Brown.

 

We need to find a top talent that is a true team lead. Brown fits that. Only a few other non-QBs do in this class IMO. There's some great team captains in the mid-ranks but if we're talking non-QB leaders with all-pro talent, you've got Young, Simmons & Brown. They carried their locker rooms.

I would love to see us get the top OT available but I seriously doubt Hurney is going to do anything that might acknowledge he made a mistake with Little.

Even with that said though, I'm never on board with reaching for need. You have to take the best player available.

If the best player is clearly Brown, you take him.

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52 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I would love to see us get the top OT available but I seriously doubt Hurney is going to do anything that might acknowledge he made a mistake with Little.

Even with that said though, I'm never on board with reaching for need. You have to take the best player available.

If the best player is clearly Brown, you take him.

Agreed and agreed.

Except, I don't want another LB in the top 10.  For me it's either DT, DE (don't see one there), or OT, with my preference being OT if he checks out.

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3 hours ago, Waldo said:

That would be a home run so we won't be doing that.

Pick a MLB in the 1st. Go ahead and throw the 2nd ans 3rd round picks out and pencil in a warm body that won't contribute and follow it up with an injurey prone project in the 4th, a guy that contributes in the 5th as a backup or 3rd/4th year starter and the 6th round and 7th round guys will be cut or sent to the practice squad. Clasic Hurney draft.

I would rather have you as the GM.

He has been very hit and miss with third round picks historically. Not terrible. Especially at drafting DE’s in the 3rd.

he should never be allowed to make the 2nd round pick tho

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