Corona Virus

[4Corners]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

China is calling for the trade in wild animals to be strictly prohibited. Peak irony... we've achieved it.

They’ve outlawed bush meat / exotic animals before. They are full of poo. 

[Harbingers]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

China is calling for the trade in wild animals to be strictly prohibited. Peak irony... we've achieved it.

Ya, furthermore, obviously we didn’t get COVID-19 from bats or Pangolin, but perhaps they could be useful in a vaccine. Just as we use chicken eggs to make the “flu” vaccine.

“The new coronavirus’ similarity to both a bat virus and a pangolin virus suggests that viruses from the two animals may have exchanged genes at some point before infecting people (SN: 3/26/20). The pangolin viruses, however, lack a feature seen in SARS-CoV-2 that may have helped the virus make the leap to humans — a hint that the virus may have acquired an adaptation in another, not yet identified, animal before spreading around the globe.”

[Cam's New Arm]

44 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

“Chinese researchers say they've found a virus in pangolins that closely resembles the new coronavirus. And they're calling for the trade in wild animals to be strictly prohibited.” “85-92%” Match. 
https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/ataglance/840/

meh. I would take with a grain of salt any cause the Chinese tell of this. That is likely close to the reason for this spread but I again am leaning towards a man made origin. 

Edited March 29, 2020 by Cam's New Arm

[LinvilleGorge]

I just think the lab designed virus theory is tinfoil hat stuff. This isn't the first time we've seen a novel coronavirus jump the species barrier in Chinese wet market.

[Cam's New Arm]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I just think the lab designed virus theory is tinfoil hat stuff. This isn't the first time we've seen a novel coronavirus jump the species barrier in Chinese wet market.

I say it is a greater chance of it being of natural origin, as you say.

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, Davidson Deac II said:

IMO, the president and governors should come out and say bluntly that in two weeks, they will reassess the situation.  Make no promises one way or the other, but tell people that they will decide to extend based on the situation then.

Of course, people would read into that what they wanted to hear instead of what was actually said, but stupidity can't be helped.  

All you need to do is look at the Johns Hopkins covid 19 map expand every day and see that this is not going away any time soon.  Anyone who thinks restrictions anywhere in this country will be eased by a semi coherent state governor  ( and I mean most likely a minimum of 2 or 3 months ) is fooling themselves.  The pos in the white house can say what he wants and his lemmings can follow him over the cliff, but most governors are smarter than him and will do as science and health authorities say is the best course of action to take.

[Happy Panther]

Almost every country has the coronavirus now. But China got it right off the bat.

[MurkN]

21 Million Chinese Cellphone Users Disappear in Three Months

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The opacity of the Chinese Communist authorities obliges dependable outside the house observers to appear for clues to the truth of the matter of the coronavirus epidemic, in its place of simply repeating official information and facts devoid of concern.

The formal depend from China is 3,277 fatalities from 81,171 bacterial infections as of Tuesday, but the Epoch Periods observed the troubling disappearance of some 21 million cell telephone accounts in China about the previous three months – an unprecedented decrease that hints at much more fatalities than Beijing is geared up to confess.

It really should be said at the outset that we ought to not be pressured to read tea leaves to determine out what definitely happened in China, primarily in the virus epicenter of Hubei province and the town of Wuhan, where by Chinese officers are at this time creating promises of zero new bacterial infections that no a person severely believes. While extra responsible governments concern troubling warnings of a second wave of infections, intense more than enough to prompt the re-imposition of quarantine techniques that were being only a short while ago lifted, China statements it has no 2nd wave and all of its new coronavirus circumstances are imported.

https://abc14news.com/2020/03/24/21-million-chinese-cellphone-users-disappear-in-three-months/

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I just think the lab designed virus theory is tinfoil hat stuff. This isn't the first time we've seen a novel coronavirus jump the species barrier in Chinese wet market.

A lab designed virus, ala Tom Clancy's rainbow six novel, would be far more lethal.

Edited March 29, 2020 by Davidson Deac II

[Car123]

What an idiot.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

38 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Almost every country has the coronavirus now. But China got it right off the bat.

[Squirrel]

2 hours ago, Harbingers said:

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200330_05/

“Airport officials said an American, a Canadian and 6 Filipinos were on the plane. A patient scheduled to receive treatment in Japan was traveling with a family member and medical team.”

 

Very suspicious planes just dont catch on fire taxiing out.  Probably a issue with O2 canisters. 

Edited March 29, 2020 by Squirrel

[stirs]

4 hours ago, Thorrez said:

You are missing the fact that a lot of infected "no risk group" survived thanks to treatment. And no country in the world has capacity to treat even a fraction of the sever cases if we just let it run lose. 

Your point assumes it is safe for everyone in non risk groups without treatment. Do you want to risk the lives of tens or even hundreds of thousands on that assumption? 

The point I am making is that the hospitals are packed full of the "at risk" folks.  The social distancing does not work when grandparents spend all their time with family, even in groups under 10.  If the 65 and up and at risk folks were quarantined and not getting this virus, the rest of the country could most likely work and serve the at risk folks.  There might be people that are not at risk going to the hospital, but the system should be able to handle them, not unlike the flu each season.

Families would be impacted however by not being able to spend time with the elderly, might even seem cruel, but would not end up in a funeral.

You still social distance, AND you put out the testing for antibodies to know who has already had it.

The normal testing seems kind of stupid now.  If 50% of the people that had it didn't even know?  What about the ones getting tested and negative, do they come back every week until they finally test positive?  Just seems like it is good for building a database of where the outbreaks are, but not much in stopping it.

[stirs]

1 hour ago, Paa Langfart said:

All you need to do is look at the Johns Hopkins covid 19 map expand every day and see that this is not going away any time soon.  Anyone who thinks restrictions anywhere in this country will be eased by a semi coherent state governor  ( and I mean most likely a minimum of 2 or 3 months ) is fooling themselves.  The pos in the white house can say what he wants and his lemmings can follow him over the cliff, but most governors are smarter than him and will do as science and health authorities say is the best course of action to take.

Nice to be reminded of the Tinderbox every now and then