REPORT: Panthers will not tank, working more of a mixed reboot than total rebuild.

[kungfoodude]

11 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Brother its already burnt down.  Hurney made sure of that. 

 

In case you havent noticed our roster is lacking  double digit starters. 

It is not because free agency and the draft are not complete. Again, your take may well end up being correct but it is premature to say that will happen. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

It is not because free agency and the draft are not complete. Again, your take may well end up being correct but it is premature to say that will happen. 

The odds are heavily in the favor that it will happen. 

[t96]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that is why I am so heavily invested in Plan A. I cannot fathom why people are so excited about the prospect of drafting a new QB. That has been really, really sketchy for us historically. Outside the top 5, it gets even more sketchy. 

I am not looking forward to trying to find a new franchise QB, I am dreading the prospect of trying and then NOT finding him on the first attempt. 

I wouldn’t invest so heavily in that because it’s likely just setting up to be disappointed. I’ve had high expectations for the team in recent years and now am looking at it with the mindset that we’re gonna suck bad for a few years before it hopefully gets good again. If it turns out better and we keep Cam and compete this year, then great. But I’m not counting on it.

[TheSpecialJuan]

oh boy

[sml1950]

It continues to amaze me that so many people on this board still believe that Hurney has the final say on any player acquisition/disposition in the draft, FA or otherwise.  He’s there to accumulate/filter/advise the info for Rhule, who will make the decisions. Apparently he’s finished with his team analysis and believes he can reboot “on the fly” without tearing everything down.  If that’s the case it’ll good news for Cam staying.

[Jared Patterson]

Hurney wants to be average this year (to keep his job) and the team wants to tank. Not good alignment, this is not good

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, sml1950 said:

It continues to amaze me that so many people on this board still believe that Hurney has the final say on any player acquisition/disposition in the draft, FA or otherwise.  He’s there to accumulate/filter/advise the info for Rhule, who will make the decisions. Apparently he’s finished with his team analysis and believes he can reboot “on the fly” without tearing everything down.  If that’s the case it’ll good news for Cam staying.

I want to believe this but I havent read or heard anything that resembles this.

[*FreeFua*]

57 minutes ago, Asurfaholic said:

Cam staying -confirmed!!

Aka no one is offering ANYTHING for him

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, t96 said:

I wouldn’t invest so heavily in that because it’s likely just setting up to be disappointed. I’ve had high expectations for the team in recent years and now am looking at it with the mindset that we’re gonna suck bad for a few years before it hopefully gets good again. If it turns out better and we keep Cam and compete this year, then great. But I’m not counting on it.

I'm investing in Cam heavily because it's really the only shot at hope for the future of the franchise that I can grasp at. Without him returning to form, it's just a sea of uncertainty. I don't look forward to that uncertainty, I dread it because I simply do not have faith in the leadership of this organization currently. That may change but I haven't seen ample reason to push forward trusting that Tepper, Hurney or Rhule "got this."

[Carl Spackler]

At least we have this, our record in seasons following a top-10 draft pick (since 2002)

7-9
11-5
6-10
7-9
11-5

Never mind, that just looks like a regular five-year trend

[Asurfaholic]

3 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Aka no one is offering ANYTHING for him

Six of one, half dozen of the other. 
 

[RASTAN66]

Makes total sense.  All the tank rhetoric was preposterous from the start and Cam sure isn't going to want to go through something like that.  I look forward to seeing what Team Marty/Rhule/Tepper put together and I'm optimistic!  8-8 would be a step in the right direction and a natural waypoint on this journey Tepper is taking us on.

[stbugs]

1 hour ago, MountaineerChemist10 said:

That's good to hear. A mixed reboot is almost exactly what '17 Rams, Niners & Bills have done. Result? Playoff teams & SB trips. Still no SB ring but you get the picture.

A HUGE tank is similar to what the Browns, Jets & Dolphins have been doing for years. Any improvement so far? Nada.

Umm, this is pretty funny. They 2017 Rams are one of your retooling examples? They were 4-12 in 2016 and before 2017, they had 10 straight seasons of 7 or fewer wins. They didn’t have a single .500 season and yet you call them a retooling? The only difference between the Rams, 49ers and Bills and the Browns, Jets and Dolphins is that the former teams hit on some of their high draft picks and also hired competent coaches. Also, with 5 first round picks and 4 seconds this year and next, don’t be shocked to see Miami’s tank work. They’ve got the ammo, will they use it.

It’s hysterical the motions people jump through here to act like we aren’t fully rebuilding or that scary word, tanking. Using teams that drafted top 5, 10 and 15 for years and finally turned it around and aren’t really any different than the teams that picked in the same spots and didn’t turn it around.

If Marty gets off his ass and drafts well for a change and Rhule is like McVay, McDermott and Shanahan, we’ll be fine. If not we’ll be the Browns. It has nothing to do with building a losing culture by tanking. It has everything to do with good drafts and a good coach.

[Smithers]

1 hour ago, Real1zOnly said:

How we rebooting with limited capspace and letting our 2nd best defensive player walk in FA?

 

We have to many holes to reboot quite simply.

We didn’t “let” him walk.  We made it known we want him here.  He chose to test the market.  He may still sign here...never know.