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Gil Brandt top 150


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3 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Okudah could drop if this is accurate.  Simmons will be our pick, unless a team that we thought was taking Okudah takes Simmons.  Then we would have a crack at Okudah---

I still say our pick will be Simmons.

I don’t think Simmons is there at 7 but he’s who I want. 

I have a very hard time believing Okudah goes before 7. I don’t see it at all. 

I could see our board as follows: 

1)Simmons

2) Brown

3) Henderson/Okudah (I think we have Henderson ranked higher and people are sleeping on Diggs, he’s going to make a very good pro)

Side note, I think the Lions would be making a mistake to pass up on a QB. 

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11 minutes ago, BerryLoMein said:

Bull poo, no way Burrow is the best prospect in the draft. He may not even be the best Qb.

Gil Brandt is a former GM. He understands positional value. It looks like he's implementing a strong positional value influence into his rankings and NFL teams almost certainly do too.

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If the draft fell that way, we may wind up with an OT, which wouldn't be bad at all. This team will likely have to score a bunch of points to win any games the next few years, so adding to our strength would help that. I would rather have one of the defenders we love, but I am more about BPA no matter the position. 

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Yup, and I feel pretty good about my final mock.  Only 2 of my 6 picks in the top 150 weren't close to where Brandt had them ranked.  And no, this not one of the BBs I referenced in drawing it up.  I just need to swap my 4th and first of the two 5th rounders to solve that.

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16 minutes ago, Chief Keek said:

I don't understand this obsession with Herbert, every Oregon game I watched he seemed pedestrian to me. Other than fitting the prototypical QB mold there isn't anything about his game that stood out.

While Herbert has top notch physical tools, he is not a good QB.  His accuracy is inconsistent, he doesn't have great touch, his decision making is also very inconsistent, and the biggest issue is that he really struggles when under pressure (I'm talking situational more than physical from the defense...even though he struggles when facing pressure as well).  

When he makes a mistake, or his team needs him to make a play or carry the team, he flounders...often badly.  He's the antithesis of the cool as a cucumber QB's that become Super Bowl hero's.  

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6 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

Herbert above Tua was a red flag for me, then seeing Okudah all the way down at 13, I was like strike 2.  Then I see Jonathan Taylor ranked 13 spots ahead of DeAndre Swift, and I was like strike 3, and I am done reading this crap. 

I have some considerable issues with his rankings too. Those three among them. But, Brandt is definitely one of the best in the business, one of the few I actually pay attention to, and pretty much the only one in the business who actually has a successful stint as an NFL GM on his list of credentials to back up his opinions. But, he's not perfect and no one is. In every draft previously and in the future, there have been and will be busts and steals. Even the best of talent evaluators are wrong quite often. It's just the nature of the business.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have some considerable issues with his rankings too. Those three among them. But, Brandt is definitely one of the best in the business, one of the few I actually pay attention to, and pretty much the only one in the business who actually has a successful stint as an NFL GM on his list of credentials to back up his opinions. But, he's not perfect and no one is. In every draft previously and in the future, there have been and will be busts and steals. Even the best of talent evaluators are wrong quite often. It's just the nature of the business.

I agree, and I was excited to read his rankings. I wasn't to upset about Herbert over Tua, though I disagree, there is an injury to factor in.  I still believe Okudah is higher than 13. The one that got me was Taylor 13, yes 13 spots in front of Swift. I believe they are close in their ability to carry the football, but Swift is a better receiver from the backfield, better at picking up blitzes when staying in to block, and he doesn't have the fumble issues that Taylor has. 

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