Steve Smith: Bridgewater is QB for "right now"

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

Then D.J Moore went from the guy to replace him to not even a #1

Smith really did change his tune on Moore for a bit, there.

Some have suggested it was a motivational tactic. It's possible, but Smitty's not really known for that sort of thing.

[WarPanthers89]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's the part a lot of people don't want to recognize. Bridgewater is basically Kyle Allen minus the fumbles. 

He’s definitely an upgrade over Allen let’s be real. Allen had the team going with 5 straight wins and an energized fan base at one point last year, and 7 million turnovers later we don’t win another game. That’s a huge part of the game, and Teddy is a healthy qb who is proven, knows our offense in an offseason that may not have training camp, and has the potential to field the best offense we have had since 2015. I’ll wait and see how he pans out, but the offense isn’t something I’m worried about performing next season, it’s by far the defense. 

[Panfan35]

It’s either tua or no QB this draft

[GoobyPls]

5 hours ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

Foles... Wentz didn't take 1 snap in the post-season. That list is also inflated when Brady owns 6 of those rings... 

That's mainly because FA QBs are too expensive. Falcons have been trash since Matt Ryan's raise.

Edit: I know the Eagles drafted Foles, but they picked him up on FA so draft is irrelevant. 

Foles was drafted by the eagles and Pederson was his QB coach.

 

 It’s mainly due to the fact coaches and GM like to build around QBs they have drafted

[GoobyPls]

Oh and I had to go back 11 years just add Brees, so it’s been 1 in the last decade.

 

And if you want go back further with Dilfer and Johnson, you can make the case over the last 20 years the 3 SB winning QBs who had the least amount of impact on their team winning the SB were all free agents (Dilfer, Johnson and Manning)

[Waldo]

The idea of building a high powered offense around Ted is like building a sports car around a Ford Taurus engine. He is just an easy piece to plug into the system until we find a franchise QB because of his familiarity with Brady's system. He can't be a Dilfer or ect. because unlike Dilfer he won't have a championship team around him the next two years. He does have CMC and that hopefully will keep his trade value up so once we find a franchise QB we can unload Ted onto his next team for some value.

 

[Growl]

9 hours ago, Rogue Panther said:

Some of yall are funny. 

If our OC is even half as good as we was billed and brought here to be, he will easily make Teddy a more than serviceable QB you can win with. 

I expect no worse than a QBR ranking of 16. 

Brady is going to develop a system and put all of our players in positions to succeed. Teddy has already proven he can succeed in such systems. 

 

wow if he's proven he can Succeed In Such Systems I don't know why we'd ever focus on upgrading

 

Can he Execute The Offense as well? 

Effectively Manage The Game?

Come In And Win Some Games For Us?

 

[Madwolf]

17 hours ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

But again, Lamar Jackson had an MVP season and flopped in the playoffs... Winning 2 playoff games home or away is no gimmee. Caron Wentz very well might've done the same. Foles ultimately won 3 games in the postseason, Wentz played 0. Wentz is an alright QB, but I don't think Foles starting that year would've made a difference.

The Eagles sucked the next year when they brought back Wentz. Then Foles returns and they almost upset the Saints in the superdome, but Alshon batted the ball up. Still do not see how they kept Wentz.

Obvious bias, but Lamar didn't flop in the playoff game this year, his WRs did. They really let him down not catching a lot of gimmies. 

[Madwolf]

And just in defense of Teddy, had he started all 16 games of the season last year he was on pace for 

Yards: 3,900

TDs: 29

Ints: 6

Wins: 16-0 (Massive grain of salt there :P)

Rushing Yards: 100

[RASTAN66]

Teddy is gonna put a headlock on the Panthers starting job for a decade --- all challengers should prepare to be pile driven.

Teddy Time.

Rhule's Rules rule.

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

And just in defense of Teddy, had he started all 16 games of the season last year he was on pace for 

Yards: 3,900

TDs: 29

Ints: 6

Wins: 16-0 (Massive grain of salt there :P)

Rushing Yards: 100

Per his first 5 starts, had Kyle Allen played all 16 games he was on pace for

Yards: 3400

TDs: 23

INTs: 9

Wins: 13-3

How'd that end up working out?

[Vagrant]

16 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

That's the part a lot of people don't want to recognize. Bridgewater is basically Kyle Allen minus the fumbles. 

that's just crazy talk, man. the vikings did the same thing to bridgewater as carolina did to cam early in his career, which was to never let him throw the ball in either red zone. they had adrian peterson in the prime of his career and every time bridgewater would move them down the field, they fed AP the touchdown. it's like that year mike tolbert ran for 150 yards or something and had 7 touchdowns. they had 21 as a team that year because they'd make cam score with his feet because they didn't trust his arm down there. when the windows get tighter and the defensive backs don't have to worry about getting beat over the top, they can really press and disrupt timing and force the quarterback into mistakes. i don't think minnesota ever really put him in a position to throw for a lot of touchdowns because they just knew they could feed AP. he's better than those numbers he put up there for that reason. if you think he's kyle allen, you're going to be pleasantly surprised at what you see when the games start back. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Vagrant said:

that's just crazy talk, man. the vikings did the same thing to bridgewater as carolina did to cam early in his career, which was to never let him throw the ball in either red zone. they had adrian peterson in the prime of his career and every time bridgewater would move them down the field, they fed AP the touchdown. it's like that year mike tolbert ran for 150 yards or something and had 7 touchdowns. they had 21 as a team that year because they'd make cam score with his feet because they didn't trust his arm down there. when the windows get tighter and the defensive backs don't have to worry about getting beat over the top, they can really press and disrupt timing and force the quarterback into mistakes. i don't think minnesota ever really put him in a position to throw for a lot of touchdowns because they just knew they could feed AP. he's better than those numbers he put up there for that reason. if you think he's kyle allen, you're going to be pleasantly surprised at what you see when the games start back. 

Meanwhile, the Panthers led the league in NFL in sacks allowed last season. It's not like Kyle Allen had an exactly dreamy situation. I don't think that Kyle Allen was the long-term solution, but I don't think Teddy is either and Kyle Allen was infinitely cheaper.

 

[RASTAN66]

On average less than 1 QB per season drafted in 1st round ever makes a Pro Bowl.

Put another way, every 20 years produces 19 QB's who were drafted in 1st round, and make a Pro Bowl.

We are fortunate to have one.

Teddy Time.

Rhule's Rules rule.