Matt Rhule on Injury Updates

[jfra78]

https://www.si.com/nfl/panthers/news/matt-rhule-provides-injury-update-on-short-thompson-gano-others

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KK [Short] looks like he's in fantastic shape. He's 315 pounds. I think he's done a really good job of putting himself in position to have a special year.

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Rhule also mentioned that linebacker Shaq Thompson and kicker Graham Gano are both back and "look healthy

Also mentioned the injury to Palarady, but is really high on Charlton

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He got a big, big, big leg and he has elite hangtime. He just has the leg to do it and he's got the ability, so have to provide him the right environment so he can get confident. We're confident that he has all the tools to do this

I'm excited to see Short and Brown play next to each other this year.

[Basbear]

Is there a video/audio of Rhules recent interview? I looked around, no luck. Panthers website hates my extensions, always has.  

[TheSpecialJuan]

31 minutes ago, Basbear said:

Is there a video/audio of Rhules recent interview? I looked around, no luck. Panthers website hates my extensions, always has.  

 

[kungfoodude]

Four posts and no one poo talking Short or bitching about him not being cut????

That has to be a 2020 record.

I am also looking forward to seeing how Brown and Short work together. I don't think Short is operating on an empty tank at all.

[onmyown]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Four posts and no one poo talking Short or bitching about him not being cut????

That has to be a 2020 record.

I am also looking forward to seeing how Brown and Short work together. I don't think Short is operating on an empty tank at all.

No point in cutting him if it doesn’t save any money. That’ll be next year. Short is paid like a lineman who doesn’t need help. But he does. He needed Star. And he will need Brown. He hasn’t been worth his contract in any measurable metric such as stats, or compared to the players making around the the same amount. Same with Shaq.

That’s a pretty good reason to bitch, as stupid contracts have been a prime reason the franchise has failed time after time, with no back to back winning seasons in almost 30 years, only teams like the Browns have those kinds of records. Tying up money on worthless players. The Panthers are still paying M Kalil.

And that was when he was healthy, now a big guy coming back from a big injury...I’ve seen this play out over and over. If he overachieves this year and has help from Brown, he’ll be average.

Good enough for you?

[kungfoodude]

30 minutes ago, onmyown said:

No point in cutting him if it doesn’t save any money. That’ll be next year. Short is paid like a lineman who doesn’t need help. But he does. He needed Star. And he will need Brown. He hasn’t been worth his contract in any measurable metric such as stats, or compared to the players making around the the same amount. Same with Shaq.

That’s a pretty good reason to bitch, as stupid contracts have been a prime reason the franchise has failed time after time, with no back to back winning seasons in almost 30 years, only teams like the Browns have those kinds of records. Tying up money on worthless players. The Panthers are still paying M Kalil.

And that was when he was healthy, now a big guy coming back from a big injury...I’ve seen this play out over and over. If he overachieves this year and has help from Brown, he’ll be average.

Good enough for you?

Hell yeah, that is the kind of irrational whining I am accustomed to. That's the spirit.

[jfra78]

5 hours ago, onmyown said:

No point in cutting him if it doesn’t save any money. That’ll be next year. Short is paid like a lineman who doesn’t need help. But he does. He needed Star. And he will need Brown. He hasn’t been worth his contract in any measurable metric such as stats, or compared to the players making around the the same amount. Same with Shaq.

That’s a pretty good reason to bitch, as stupid contracts have been a prime reason the franchise has failed time after time, with no back to back winning seasons in almost 30 years, only teams like the Browns have those kinds of records. Tying up money on worthless players. The Panthers are still paying M Kalil.

And that was when he was healthy, now a big guy coming back from a big injury...I’ve seen this play out over and over. If he overachieves this year and has help from Brown, he’ll be average.

Good enough for you?

This is silly, all linemen need help and none do it alone. 

[Jeremy Igo]

KK Short has looked pedestrian ever since Star left. I hate it, but thats a fact. He hardly resembles the disruptive force from 2015. 

[Carl Spackler]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Hell yeah, that is the kind of irrational whining I am accustomed to. That's the spirit.

You left out "uninformed" as well. It took the Falcons well over 30 years to have back-to-back winning seasons. And besides, I'd take three straight division championships and guaranteed playoff berths over two 9-7 seasons without the playoffs.

[OneBadCat]

Just insane that Gano is still on the roster. He’s Marty Hurney of kickers.

[onmyown]

8 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Hell yeah, that is the kind of irrational whining I am accustomed to. That's the spirit.

Player gets fat contract that seems overpaid. Fan noticed a trend with their favorite team.

Player underperforms and by other players salaries looks to be an extremely overpaid contract that will inhibit fan’s favorite team’s ability to build a competitive team.

Fan points the facts out. Fan is labeled as whining.

3 hours ago, jfra78 said:

This is silly, all linemen need help and none do it alone. 

There are more dominant lineman the league who can move around the line or even go to a different team and preform pretty well. Not turn to utter garbage because because one of their teammates got traded. You’ll find these lineman in the salary range of KK.

 

1 hour ago, Carl Spackler said:

You left out "uninformed" as well. It took the Falcons well over 30 years to have back-to-back winning seasons. And besides, I'd take three straight division championships and guaranteed playoff berths over two 9-7 seasons without the playoffs.

If you took the Browns comment literally, yea. Also I don’t want to be the Falcons. You’ll take 7-9 season and one and done playoff seasons over a winning one? That’s basically just hoping the rest of the NFCS sucks enough so we can get in and declaring the wild card our super bowl. I think Rivera has this mindset too tbh. No thanks.

Like I said you all can get butthurt all you want but production and salary matter. It’s crippled this team. Go and compare KK to the rest of the league, I already have.

Sure, hope he comes back from injury, hope he used his time off to learn how to play without a NT taking up 2 blockers on every play. Hope he plays to his contracts worth. That’s fine hope all you want, I hope for those things too. But don’t act like he’ll be a force, and ignore the facts. Ignore the fact his contract has hurt the team. Ignore that’s been a trend in the franchise that needs to end. That’s all fans ever did with JR for whatever reason, complacency with mediocrity. Least Cam never did that.

[jfra78]

29 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Player gets fat contract that seems overpaid. Fan noticed a trend with their favorite team.

Player underperforms and by other players salaries looks to be an extremely overpaid contract that will inhibit fan’s favorite team’s ability to build a competitive team.

Fan points the facts out. Fan is labeled as whining.

There are more dominant lineman the league who can move around the line or even go to a different team and preform pretty well. Not turn to utter garbage because because one of their teammates got traded. You’ll find these lineman in the salary range of KK.

 

If you took the Browns comment literally, yea. Also I don’t want to be the Falcons. You’ll take 7-9 season and one and done playoff seasons over a winning one? That’s basically just hoping the rest of the NFCS sucks enough so we can get in and declaring the wild card our super bowl. I think Rivera has this mindset too tbh. No thanks.

Like I said you all can get butthurt all you want but production and salary matter. It’s crippled this team. Go and compare KK to the rest of the league, I already have.

Sure, hope he comes back from injury, hope he used his time off to learn how to play without a NT taking up 2 blockers on every play. Hope he plays to his contracts worth. That’s fine hope all you want, I hope for those things too. But don’t act like he’ll be a force, and ignore the facts. Ignore the fact his contract has hurt the team. Ignore that’s been a trend in the franchise that needs to end. That’s all fans ever did with JR for whatever reason, complacency with mediocrity. Least Cam never did that.

Highly inaccurate. Name a player not on a rookie deal that makes less and is better than KK.  KK is ranked 17th among D lineman. I feel that is about right.  

[pantherclaw]

9 hours ago, onmyown said:

 

Good enough for you?

Nope.

[LinvilleGorge]

32 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Highly inaccurate. Name a player not on a rookie deal that makes less and is better than KK.  KK is ranked 17th among D lineman. I feel that is about right.  

Ranked 17th by who? There's no way that KK has been one of the top 20 defensive linemen in the NFL over the past couple of years. He looks average out there to be honest. I'd love to see him bounce back, but his age says it's unlikely. He's almost certainly on the downside of his career at this point.