Pretty stark contrast here.

[Icege]

4 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Tre would also greatly increase his quickness and maneuverability of he'd cut off about half of that weave/beads/braids thing he has going. I swear he has 10 pounds of hair/hair products hanging off of his head. Imagine how much fast he could turn his head to track receivers if he brought that mane down to something manageable.

I hate this planet.

[Khyber53]

2 minutes ago, Icege said:

I hate this planet.

I certainly did not intend to offend. I only viewed it as a question of vanity versus physics, nothing else.

[bababoey]

14 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Was he in single high or was he tasked with playing a "robber" role? Honestly we don't know.

Shaq was in robber.  You can watch him tackle the wr crossing underneath.

[Icege]

6 minutes ago, bababoey said:

Shaq was in robber.  You can watch him tackle the wr crossing underneath.

He body checked the poo out of that man coming across lmao

[ncsfinest21]

While most comments are true, take note that this is KK first game back after suffering a season ending injury. Give him some time.

[thefuzz]

24 minutes ago, ncsfinest21 said:

While most comments are true, take note that this is KK first game back after suffering a season ending injury. Give him some time.

We have, 2 years.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Icege said:

I watched the condensed game 3 or 4 times while waiting for the All-22 and am excited to see if it confirms some of my current thoughts.

The primary ones being that Stephen Weatherly was our best DL while Marquis Haynes was our worst. Everybody made mistakes, but everybody with the exception of Zach Kerr flashed plays (Kerr wasn't bad like Haynes, but he wasn't good either). Roy was surprising, Brown was impressive, Short was a LOT better than I initially thought, and Obada played incredibly well with his limited snaps.

Burns is awesome, but two of the Raiders runs that set them up for short yardage conversions were because he ran up field and didn't contain. Yetur was damn near invisible as well, but he was constantly hustling which you like to see. I loved seeing him and Brown always being in the pile if Jacobs happened to scamper several yards downfield from the line of scrimmage.

Troy Pride Jr needs a year to learn. The Ruggs completion to set up their first Jacobs TD was because Troy followed the WR in man rather than setting back in cover 3 like the call looked to be (from what I could tell). Shaq had a play or two where he was caught out of position as well, but he was able to make up for it with his closing speed.

Speaking of motors, Juston Burris brings it on every play even if he's nowhere near it.

PFF had Weatherly as our best DL and one of the best DL performances of the week. 

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, Icege said:

I watched the condensed game 3 or 4 times while waiting for the All-22 and am excited to see if it confirms some of my current thoughts.

The primary ones being that Stephen Weatherly was our best DL while Marquis Haynes was our worst. Everybody made mistakes, but everybody with the exception of Zach Kerr flashed plays (Kerr wasn't bad like Haynes, but he wasn't good either). Roy was surprising, Brown was impressive, Short was a LOT better than I initially thought, and Obada played incredibly well with his limited snaps.

Burns is awesome, but two of the Raiders runs that set them up for short yardage conversions were because he ran up field and didn't contain. Yetur was damn near invisible as well, but he was constantly hustling which you like to see. I loved seeing him and Brown always being in the pile if Jacobs happened to scamper several yards downfield from the line of scrimmage.

Troy Pride Jr needs a year to learn. The Ruggs completion to set up their first Jacobs TD was because Troy followed the WR in man rather than setting back in cover 3 like the call looked to be (from what I could tell). Shaq had a play or two where he was caught out of position as well, but he was able to make up for it with his closing speed.

Speaking of motors, Juston Burris brings it on every play even if he's nowhere near it.

I wonder how many gaffes on defense in the first half were those plays where there was no play called due to communication issues.

[Jon Snow]

3 hours ago, Waldo said:

Sadly it's not a surprise. KK just doesn't have it anymore and it's been a while since he has. The hope that he could generate another solid year looks to be fading away.

What he's missing is desire.  He just doesn't care, why should he?  He got his.

[Waldo]

53 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

What he's missing is desire.  He just doesn't care, why should he?  He got his.

It looks like it but maybe he just can't anymore. The NFL is not kind to 300+ pound bodies over 30.

[stbugs]

4 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

KK is washed. He has been for awhile. That Hurney restructure was a terrible idea and I said so at the time. We should've already moved on but Hurney kicked that can down the road per usual.

I don’t think I could have beaten that drum any more. These were the replies:

1. Short has his Star back so he’ll be a monster.

2. We’ll save money if he plays (wrong of course).

3. You just want us to tank for Trevor (true).

I hope all the Short supporters and Hurney realize that we are basically lighting $13M on fire and could have saved that for part of a splash when we are competitive.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

What he's missing is desire.  He just doesn't care, why should he?  He got his.

I don't know if that's accurate or not. All I know is that he's a shadow of his former self, whether that's due to desire, age, decline due to injury, or some combination of the above I don't know. 

[stbugs]

2 hours ago, ncsfinest21 said:

While most comments are true, take note that this is KK first game back after suffering a season ending injury. Give him some time.

When you are rebuilding and you’re paying him top dollar and it was an injury he should be 100% from now. Same with Paradis last year. You don’t pay guys $9M or $13M a year if they are injured enough that they can’t start the year healthy. We will probably release him after this year anyway. Big waste of cap and cash.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't know if that's accurate or not. All I know is that he's a shadow of his former self, whether that's due to desire, age, decline due to injury, or some combination of the above I don't know. 

If he isn't flashing more by game 5 or 6, I don't think we should expect to see him return to form. Tampa will be a good indicator because they are weak and/or inexperienced on the OL. If he(or really the DL as a whole) don't flash against these guys, it is a bad sign.