Pretty stark contrast here.

[Jeremy Igo]

 

 

Been watching the game film. This is pretty typical. Derrick Brown gets more penetration and causes more disruption double teamed than KK Short does 1 on 1 .

[Waldo]

Sadly it's not a surprise. KK just doesn't have it anymore and it's been a while since he has. The hope that he could generate another solid year looks to be fading away.

[LinvilleGorge]

KK is washed. He has been for awhile. That Hurney restructure was a terrible idea and I said so at the time. We should've already moved on but Hurney kicked that can down the road per usual.

[hepcat]

If KK can at least offer some run stopping ability I’d say keep him out there on early downs. Problem was the Raiders kept getting in 3rd and short situations where they’d run for 5+ every time. It’s going to be a long season.

[bababoey]

If you watch the secondary, Tre Boston was in single high with Burris down in the box covering the TE in man.  Why does he jump to cover the underneath route and not help the rookie who is all alone man v. man?  

[Jeremy Igo]

1 minute ago, bababoey said:

If you watch the secondary, Tre Boston was in single high with Burris down in the box covering the TE in man.  Why does he jump to cover the underneath route and not help the rookie who is all alone man v. man?  

It has been my observation for a while now that Boston will always choose whatever requires less effort and/or contact. 

[NAS]

We kept the  wrong guy.  Star is balling out in Bufallo

[thefuzz]

What happened to all those folks who thought the D Line was going to be a monster, and who just knew in their hearts that KK would have a bounce back year?

When do folks learn?

Big men, over 30, coming off injury....you typically can't count on them to do much...and you certainly can't overpay for them.

We are doing both, like normal.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, NAS said:

We kept the  wrong guy.  Star is balling out in Bufallo

No, we didn't.  Star is very good, KK was very good.

Problem is, our GM doesn't know when to cut bait, and certainly doesn't understand just how F'ing stupid these restructures are.  On top of that, instead of drafting replacements and grooming them, we just keep the overpaid lazy guy on the roster because we need a Grier.

[Icege]

I watched the condensed game 3 or 4 times while waiting for the All-22 and am excited to see if it confirms some of my current thoughts.

The primary ones being that Stephen Weatherly was our best DL while Marquis Haynes was our worst. Everybody made mistakes, but everybody with the exception of Zach Kerr flashed plays (Kerr wasn't bad like Haynes, but he wasn't good either). Roy was surprising, Brown was impressive, Short was a LOT better than I initially thought, and Obada played incredibly well with his limited snaps.

Burns is awesome, but two of the Raiders runs that set them up for short yardage conversions were because he ran up field and didn't contain. Yetur was damn near invisible as well, but he was constantly hustling which you like to see. I loved seeing him and Brown always being in the pile if Jacobs happened to scamper several yards downfield from the line of scrimmage.

Troy Pride Jr needs a year to learn. The Ruggs completion to set up their first Jacobs TD was because Troy followed the WR in man rather than setting back in cover 3 like the call looked to be (from what I could tell). Shaq had a play or two where he was caught out of position as well, but he was able to make up for it with his closing speed.

Speaking of motors, Juston Burris brings it on every play even if he's nowhere near it.

[Icege]

KK did get blown up 5 yards back on one snap, but that man was also consistently the first lineman off of the ball and drew multiple double teams while also getting good pressure as an end when we showed 3-4 looks

This was the most noticeable Haynes was all game.

Can we talk about how sexy Burns/Chinn as the OLBs in 3-4 sets is? Touch my body moar pls.

[OneBadCat]

Kinda hard to understand why we kept KK at this point. Unless they were desperate for some continuity. I just have to imagine that even if he does have something left in the tank that it has to be hard to be motivated with all the turnover he's witnessed along the highs and lows.

[LinvilleGorge]

27 minutes ago, bababoey said:

If you watch the secondary, Tre Boston was in single high with Burris down in the box covering the TE in man.  Why does he jump to cover the underneath route and not help the rookie who is all alone man v. man?  

Was he in single high or was he tasked with playing a "robber" role? Honestly we don't know.

[Khyber53]

38 minutes ago, Jeremy Igo said:

It has been my observation for a while now that Boston will always choose whatever requires less effort and/or contact. 

** deleted because this was inadvertently/potentially viewed as racist. I do apologize for any insensitivities, it certainly was not my intention to do so. **