Was Michael Oher's injury the worst thing to happen to this team in the last decade?

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, 4Corners said:

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Oher’s injury doesn’t even crack the top 10 for worst things to ever happen to the panthers.

Seriously, injuries happen. It’s short term....or should be short term but the reason it isn’t is due to what I believe the worst thing that has ever happened to the Panthers in the past decade....

Rehiring Marty Hurney.

The worst thing of all time is JR as an owner, Hurney is second.

You have to put it into perspective, all that on the field poo is short lived, or should be. 
 

JR was for two decades and Hurney is ETERNAL and FOREVER.

 

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Seriously, injuries happen. It’s short term....or should be short term but the reason it isn’t is due to what I believe the worst thing that has ever happened to the Panthers in the past decade....

Rehiring Marty Hurney.

The worst thing of all time is JR as an owner, Hurney is second.

You have to put it into perspective, all that on the field poo is short lived, or should be. 
 

JR was for two decades and Hurney is ETERNAL and FOREVER.

   Valid point. Wasn’t thinking that way but it fits . 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Hiring back Hurney as """"""""""interim GM"""""""""" was worse

 

[Navy_football]

Oher's injury did cause a butterfly effect of events that probably led to Cam's shoulder and foot injury. 

But to think Amini Silatolu is the highest drafted olineman until Cam's last season with the Panthers (Little) is... dumb as fugg!

[WelshPanther]

1 hour ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

I tend to be of the opinion that if the TJ Watt play doesn't happen, then the shoulder injury doesn't become such a long term thing. But in bringing this up you do introduce another factor. Regardless of what you believe about the two plays or whether Oher's presence of absence affected either, the discussion points inevitably back to FO and coaching decisions that were fundamentally flawed. In football, players are going to get hurt. Coaching staffs must adjust to these and other realities in real time. Rivera never did. GM's must be able to maintain a roster to an acceptable level even when the LT goes down to concussion, because football. Regardless of anything with Oher's injury and whether it impacted Newton and thus the entire franchise, the one thing that is clear is systemic failures of coaching and roster management were non insignificant factors.

Turn the problem on it's head. If Hurney competently replaces an injured LT, then Oher's concussion doesn't risk becoming a thing we're debating years later as potentially a negatively defining moment in the franchise's history. Instead we got Clark, Remmers, and Matt Kalil paid an awful lot of money to attempt to do whatever it is that he does.

I may be wrong but didn’t TJ Watt hit from the right side so Oher would have been zero help?

Either way Cam screwed his shoulder chasing back a poor int and then the management team kept him playing in a dead year. That’s inexcusable. (Hint hint CMC)

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

4 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Oher's injury did cause a butterfly effect of events that probably led to Cam's shoulder and foot injury. 

But to think Amini Silatolu is the highest drafted olineman until Cam's last season with the Panthers (Little) is... dumb as fugg!

Eek he was awful, him Kugzilla small school bs.. we did do well to develope Norwell and Turner but our OT situation has been trash.

[jfra78]

Worst thing to happen to this team in the past decade was allowing Dave Gettleman to dismantle a Superbowl team

[Jeremy Igo]

3 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Worst thing to happen to this team in the past decade was Rivera naming Mike Shula as offensive coordinator. 

FIFY

[jfra78]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

FIFY

That too

[nctarheelreincarnated]

1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

FIFY

Rivera's too old school man. It's showing in Washington now, and he wouldn't of hired an innovative coach anyway. 

[t96]

2 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

FIFY

There is definitely a good argument for that being worse than Oher. Man was that guy a fuging disgrace.

[t96]

6 hours ago, jfra78 said:

Worst thing to happen to this team in the past decade was allowing Dave Gettleman to dismantle a Superbowl team

Ehh, he built the 2017 roster that had us back in the playoffs and competing. Kalil was a horrific move, but other than that DG was solid and we probably would've done much better in 2018 and 2019 if we kept him instead of Hurney.

[Mvp2014]

7 minutes ago, t96 said:

Ehh, he built the 2017 roster that had us back in the playoffs and competing. Kalil was a horrific move, but other than that DG was solid and we probably would've done much better in 2018 and 2019 if we kept him instead of Hurney.

I agree.  In hindsight the things he was fired for were the correct moves and those aging vets flamed out.  He ran the org much more like the patriots and rewarded good, tough play instead of how nice you are and how wholesome your image is.  

[thefuzz]

14 minutes ago, t96 said:

Ehh, he built the 2017 roster that had us back in the playoffs and competing. Kalil was a horrific move, but other than that DG was solid and we probably would've done much better in 2018 and 2019 if we kept him instead of Hurney.

Didn't love DG as a GM here, but....he was soooo much better than Marty, it made him seem like a breath of fresh air.

The Matt Kalil thing still seems to me like a JR move through and through, DG never paid an outside player like that during his stint here (that I can recall), but for this guy.  Did Kalil have any tie to the organization?  Was he brothers with an "owner favorite"?

Now, DG had to say yes to do it, and I fault him for that, but I truly believe that Matt Kalil was an owner forced decision that backfired horribly.  Could explain the sudden departure at the end....