No more defending Teddy...

[electro's horse]

4 minutes ago, Butterflyj30 said:

I usually defend Teddy but if this is what we were going to get we should have just kept Cam

well cam doesn't even look like he can throw a forward pass at this point

[stbugs]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

I said decent, not perfect.

Right, I was specifically replying to that “last pass was huge” comment. It always gets back to defenders of Teddy saying it was a deep completion when in hindsight, it cost us the win because it wasn’t a pass that Anderson could score on when he’s 5-10 yards behind the defender but had to run OB due to the throw. With Samuel, Moore and Anderson we’ve consistently not hit them on deep TD chances and end up with FGs or turnovers. Today it cost us a two score lead with 2 minutes left.

[GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER]

1 minute ago, Butterflyj30 said:

I usually defend Teddy but if this is what we were going to get we should have just kept Cam

would have had more cap flexibility moving forward and wouldn’t have alienated fans. on the downside we might have an even worse draft position (cam is 5-5 this year with a significantly worse supporting cast than what we have here in carolina and no time to develop real chemistry with those scrubs thanks to the pandemic).

[Proudiddy]

Just now, saX man said:

Great decision by Teddy, mediocre execution, leading to a huge gain but missing an easy bomb TD.  That miss in part cost us the game. It resulted in us needing a muff, then needing the TD at the 4 yard line, that led to the DJ injury.

 

He rushed the two throws before the punt before the 2 minute warning stopping the clock as well, which ended up being horrible decisions.  Then the inaccurate throw to DJ not only stopped the clock again without a score, but also injured him.  And then if we want to go back to the first half, the INT was because he was forced to throw on 3rd and long inside the red zone bc he audibled to a run on 2nd and 14 the play before and gained nothing.  Between his conservative approach and propensity to become wildly inaccurate when it counts, he just hamstrings us as an offense.

[stbugs]

Just now, electro's horse said:

well cam doesn't even look like he can throw a forward pass at this point

Letting Cam go was a good call. We just needed to realize the 2021 QB class looks so good that we shouldn’t get a game manager who gets our beat WR hurt on a wide open TD opportunity.

[TheMaulClaw]

21 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

He is what we thought he was.. A game manager with no clutch bone in his sorry body!! fug him and any coach who thinks he's good on this team...

Not a game manager...only thing he manages is managing to lose.

[NJPanthers12]

So happy people are realizing this. There was this weird agenda earlier in the season to sing his praises for every dump off throw he made, because a certain few hated Cam from day 1. 

[Growl]

9 minutes ago, stbugs said:

No kidding. I never got the if we got Trevor Lawrence we can’t build a team around him, only if we have a QB like Teddy can you build a good team around him. The better the QB the more easily you can build a winning team. There is no way to argue against that. Teddy is 100% not the answer and maybe starting Will Grier all year would have put us in a potential position to grab a top QB. It would have been hard to out do 0 and 1 win but maybe close enough to trade up.

Letting Bridgewater continue to pad his completion percentage with late game checkdowns can make him useful trade bait to offset the potential haul we may need to give up to move up and secure a QB.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Right, I was specifically replying to that “last pass was huge” comment. It always gets back to defenders of Teddy saying it was a deep completion when in hindsight, it cost us the win because it wasn’t a pass that Anderson could score on when he’s 5-10 yards behind the defender but had to run OB due to the throw. With Samuel, Moore and Anderson we’ve consistently not hit them on deep TD chances and end up with FGs or turnovers. Today it cost us a two score lead with 2 minutes left.

Wrong pass. I'm talking about the one to Samuel.

To be clear, I'm not a "defender of Teddy", but there are some folks who go a little overboard with their criticism.

[WoahW]

2 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Bottom line contract numbers don’t matter - it’s the structure. His contract is structured so he can be replaced after two years.

It also doesn’t matter because this team cannot be competitive with this defense, period. They’re slowly coming along but no one at QB would’ve helped. History shows is simply isn’t possible. And that has nothing to do with his contract.

The team is in perfect position to cut him for no loss after two years as the defense and coaching will begin to peak and a franchise qb is found, which contrary to the huddle may mean more than simply spending one high pick in a single draft.

Especially with Hurney.

If our offense did anything more than what they did today we win no issues. They are definite holes on defense but we’ve had worse and still won games. Pretending Teddy costing the team 3 TDs doesn’t affect the outcome is hilarious, the team lost by 1 point not 44.

[stbugs]

4 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

would have had more cap flexibility moving forward and wouldn’t have alienated fans. on the downside we might have an even worse draft position (cam is 5-5 this year with a significantly worse supporting cast than what we have here in carolina and no time to develop real chemistry with those scrubs thanks to the pandemic).

Just a shame to think that we might have missed out on an opportunity to trade up for Lawrence or Fields and spent:

$43M on Teddy, $13.5M on Okung, $13M on Short and $13M on Apple/Roberts/Weatherly.

Extend Moton and Moore for 3-4 years at no cost with a rookie QB or have Teddy and meh.

[CPsinceDay1]

1 minute ago, Growl said:

Letting Bridgewater continue to pad his completion percentage with late game checkdowns can make him useful trade bait to offset the potential haul we may need to give up to move up and secure a QB.

Trade him back to the jets, give them next year's first too 

[onmyown]

4 minutes ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

would have had more cap flexibility moving forward and wouldn’t have alienated fans. on the downside we might have an even worse draft position (cam is 5-5 this year with a significantly worse supporting cast than what we have here in carolina and no time to develop real chemistry with those scrubs thanks to the pandemic).

Impossible to alienate fans of the team by cutting a player. Disappointed maybe but it wasn’t an intentional move to ‘alienate’ fans.

The only cast Cam has that is statistically worse than TB including defense, special teams, division and schedule toughness, and coaching is offensive threats.

No one had time to build chemistry during the pandemic unless you mean via video. Including our own head coach.

It is what it is, let the rebuild happen and stop kidding yourself NFL franchises get turned around overnight.

[TheMaulClaw]

4 minutes ago, Growl said:

Letting Bridgewater continue to pad his completion percentage with late game checkdowns can make him useful trade bait to offset the potential haul we may need to give up to move up and secure a QB.

Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.

No offense.