So what's wrong with Bridgewater?

[bigdog10]

I don’t think anything’s wrong with him. He’s exactly the same player he’s always been. A conservative game manager who coupled with an outstanding defense and above average line can win 10-12 games a year and maybe a playoff game.  
 

I don’t get the vitriol from our fans towards him. I guess some were expecting a rookie head coach, a patch work offensive line, a rookie laden defense and an offense missing their best weapon to contend foe the NFC this year. That’s not realistic. 
 

I don’t think Teddy was brought in to be the guy. I think he was brought in to be the mentor to the guy next year. My guess is we are going to make a move for one of these top qbs in the draft. Lance or Wilson will very likely be sitting behind TB next year and learning this offense. 

[MechaZain]

Dude's a long distance cyclist in his free time so I'm going to say it's not fatigue.

 

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

nm

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think we were too. We were wrong. 

As a long term answer, yeah.

But he was genuinely better early in the year then he is now. That's why there was discussion that maybe he could be a long term solution.

I was "wait and see" in those conversations.

This is why.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

As a long term answer, yeah.

But he was genuinely better early in the year then he is now. That's why there was discussion that maybe he could be a long term solution.

I was "wait and see" in those conversations.

This is why.

He was better than I expected him to be early, but as teams complied more film on him he regressed to where I expected him to be. It's hard to stay ahead of NFL DCs with limited physical talent. 

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

Dude's a long distance cyclist in his free time so I'm going to say it's not fatigue.

 

Does anybody knock you down when you're cycling?

Plenty of track stars have tried football. Pretty much all of them failed.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He was better than I expected him to be early, but as teams complied more film on him he regressed to where I expected him to be. It's hard to stay ahead of NFL DCs with limited physical talent. 

Which would make him better suited to be...a backup.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Which would make him better suited to be...a backup.

Yep, Teddy is one of those marginal starter/good backup types. You're bummed if he's your starter but pretty happy if he's your backup. You want your starter to be able to go out there and win games. You want your backup to hold down the fort and not go out there and lose the game. Teddy can't do the former, but he can by and large do the latter fairly reliably. Well, not today but usually. With Teddy out there your record will pretty well reflect the strength of your overall roster. 

[CarolinaNCSU]

He's...exactly the same average at best QB he's always been?  People expecting him to come in and be a Pro Bowl player all of a sudden were living in La La Land, and that's not on Teddy.  He looked average to good ON THE SAINTS in spot duty. You know, that team with Sean Payton that's been the class of the NFC, well rounded, great OL, weapons, etc.?  He came in there and didn't screw up, game managed, and won some  thanks to a lot of help around him.  He doesn't have the same luxury here, and his flaws are showing. 

Again, if you expected anything more than Teddy (at least this year), really don't know why your brain won't trust your eyes or his history. He was always average in the BEST situation possible for him, and average at best with the Vikings. He comes to a rebuilding team, with first year coaches, a decent at best OL, and his flaws are showing more.  Well...duh?  We're not the Saints. Rhule/Brady ain't Payton.  Expecting Teddy to magically be good, in this situation especially, was always an absolute longshot and kind of crazy to expect. 

[stbugs]

21 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't believe Bridgewater can take the pounding of a full NFL season, but he does still have value.

It's just a matter of putting him in right role.

What could this possibly mean? We are paying him $21M a year. The only "role" we can put him in is starting QB for that money. How could he have any value anywhere else? Backup at $21M a year? Nope. LT? Nope. He either is the starting QB or not. I didn't like the move before the season and still don't. I want to be a perennial contender and while it is possible to get there with him, it is also possible we pick the next Mahomes and laugh all the way to the bank. If we want to win the SB then I think odds are we need a new QB.

[Mage]

Teddy is the same as he was in Week 1.  The only people who didn't realize that, were the people focusing on strictly the numbers (which weren't even all that good to begin with, relative to the rest of the NFL).

He's a conservative, mediocre QB who won't make a lot of mistakes, but won't make a lot of plus, game-changing plays (in a positive way) either.  He is literally the definition of Fox's famous quote, "it is what it is."  He is what he is.

And that's about what we and the coaches expected.  Team is still way better than it has any business being.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, Mage said:

And that's about what we and the coaches expected.  

I honestly don't think we would've given him that contract if this is what we expected. Kyle Allen could've given us this at a small fraction of the price.

[KSpan]

26 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The contract tells me we were expecting more.

The 2-yeae structure says he was under evaluation. As much as I disliked the signing that was at least a sign that the staff had some inkling that he may not develop after all, so a degree of credit to them for that.

I don't believe for a second that Brady, assuming he was indeed the mind behind that LSU air attack, came here to solely dink and dunk with a guy like Teddy against top NFL competition. Run a Saints-like attack perhaps but not knowingly kneecap any downfield and aggressive offensive capability. I believe Teddy was brought in to help transition in the new system with some hope that he'd be more but the assumption that he wouldn't be.

[saX man]

28 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The contract tells me we were expecting more.

We gave him a pretty baseline disposable contract for a starting QB on a multi year deal. This isn’t against you but we didn’t invest much in the guy and our next QB investment is likely a draft pick. That pick (if they’re even a hit) won’t need a big contract until 2024. Teddy’s deal will be passed soon enough. Seems like a nice kid but we forked over Fitzpatrick money inlflation adjusted.