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For all you tankers out there...we are now sitting at #5


WarPanthers89

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  • Dallas has 3 winnable games left (SF, Philly, Giants)
  • Atlanta likely will not win a game the rest of the season ( Tampa x 2 and KC)
  • Houston is likely to win 1 more game this season (Indy, Cincinnati, Tennessee)
  • Philadelphia, fresh off a victory over N'Olins, could win any of their remaining games or lose them all (Arizona, Dallas,  Washington)

So if you consider the remaining teams with 4 wins (all jockeying for the fourth pick), Atlanta seems to be the biggest threat to the Panthers.  Tank fans need 2 things to happen--Washington needs to play well and New Orleans needs a reason to play week 17.

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7 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I honestly don’t believe we need to stay at 5 to get our QB. If we get any of the top 4 I’ll be happy, and one of them will be available in the top 10 picks 

You could be right---the top five picks could be 4 QBs and Sewell (likely a Bengal)

Jets-Lawrence

Jax-Fields

Bengals-Sewell

After that, teams will be trading up to get that QB. 

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22 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

I honestly don’t believe we need to stay at 5 to get our QB. If we get any of the top 4 I’ll be happy, and one of them will be available in the top 10 picks 

Maybe I am over-analyzing Jones and maybe he is simply blessed with a stud OL and a stable full of thoroughbred WRs, but If we could somehow get Sewell (Let's say a team trades up to get a QB and Cincy moves back) and take Jones in Round 2, I think we'd say we had a successful draft in 3 or 4 years.  I think I would rather have a combination of Sewell/Jones than Lance/Walker Little, for example.  I am higher on Jones than most because his accuracy and timing have been excellent.  I think if we take Jones, we better build the best OL in the NFL--he will need a pocket.

Understand that I want a first round QB too---but not a Rosen or a Darnold.  I would hate to take a bust knowing the best OT since Joe Thomas was on the board....I think a LT is that important.

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11 minutes ago, kass said:

How come we are ahead of Falcons?

Does the SOS change over the season?
And if so, how will our and Falcons SOS change with these last few games left.
Do we need Washington to lose some games? and that Tampa win against Detroit?

Ideally the other 4 wins teams all get another win so you don't have to worry about sos and tiebreakers

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26 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Maybe I am over-analyzing Jones and maybe he is simply blessed with a stud OL and a stable full of thoroughbred WRs, but If we could somehow get Sewell (Let's say a team trades up to get a QB and Cincy moves back) and take Jones in Round 2, I think we'd say we had a successful draft in 3 or 4 years.  I think I would rather have a combination of Sewell/Jones than Lance/Walker Little, for example.  I am higher on Jones than most because his accuracy and timing have been excellent.  I think if we take Jones, we better build the best OL in the NFL--he will need a pocket.

Understand that I want a first round QB too---but not a Rosen or a Darnold.  I would hate to take a bust knowing the best OT since Joe Thomas was on the board....I think a LT is that important.

Not a fan of this guy. All that damn talent around him makes me skeptical. 

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43 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Maybe I am over-analyzing Jones and maybe he is simply blessed with a stud OL and a stable full of thoroughbred WRs, but If we could somehow get Sewell (Let's say a team trades up to get a QB and Cincy moves back) and take Jones in Round 2, I think we'd say we had a successful draft in 3 or 4 years.  I think I would rather have a combination of Sewell/Jones than Lance/Walker Little, for example.  I am higher on Jones than most because his accuracy and timing have been excellent.  I think if we take Jones, we better build the best OL in the NFL--he will need a pocket.

Understand that I want a first round QB too---but not a Rosen or a Darnold.  I would hate to take a bust knowing the best OT since Joe Thomas was on the board....I think a LT is that important.

I agree. I'm afraid of letting Belichick have Jones. I think he's underrated by many. Kid's gonna be a very good NFL QB imo.

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