Does a game like tonight's change your opinion on trading up for Lawrence

[Kentucky Panther]

12 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Fix the defense and worry about a QB later. 

The defense that sacked Rodgers five times and held him to 24 points? Some of you guys will say anything to deflect blame away from the clear issue on our team. Teddy. The sooner you guys accept he’s not our QB after this season, the better. 

[TheProcess]

19 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

I would do 1st and 2nd this year, plus 1st next year in heartbeat, but that is nowhere close to what it would take.

You have to remember it wouldn't only be us trying to trade up, there are probably 10 teams who would give up alot for him.

The Jags would probably give a better deal than that and the Jets would only have to go back one spot.

3 1st and 3 2nds is probably a good starting point, and I doubt that would even get it done.

 

Unless Lawrence pulls a Eli Manning and tells the Jets he only wants to play for the Panthers. That would change the cost

[Soul Rebel]

Nothing would compel me to trade up for Lawrence, considering what the asking price would be. 

Our record, coaching staff and financial situation are all in retooling mode and draft capital is too important. We're able to strike in the NFCS while everyone else is trending downward. GB/SEA/NO/LAR/TB are all going to hit the pooper due to financial constraints and age very, very soon. 

Lawrence is the real deal, but look in Cincy at Burrow's severe injury into his rookie year. They're able to draft Sewell in this upcoming draft to protect him....imagine if they didn't have first rounders for the next couple of years. 

Hard pass. 

[Davidson Deac II]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Maybe. That might also be a risk they're not willing to take.

It's also worth pointing out that their draft position is a lot more locked in right now than ours is.

I think if we offered them our first and second, the reward would be well worth the risk.  Multiple first and second round picks is how you build great teams.  

 

I am not saying we should or would do it.  Just that its more likely than us trading up with the Jets.  

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, Davidson Deac II said:

I think if we offered them our first and second, the reward would be well worth the risk.  Multiple first and second round picks is how you build great teams.  

I am not saying we should or would do it.  Just that its more likely than us trading up with the Jets.  

I think our chances of getting the number one pick away from the Jets are roughly equivalent to Tommy Wiseau's chances of winning an Academy Award.

[MHS831]

12 hours ago, Basbear said:

I swear the #4 can be BETTER than the #1..... if you factor in draft- 3 more 1s, couple 2s and few 4-6s......better hope hernaiy can find a entire OL form undrafted free agents. Its like you want the panthers to fail. 

I look at the top QBs like this:  They are all dangerously risky after Lawrence.  So trade back and take a few picks to build around a Trask or Mac Jones.  Imagine if we drafted a top LT (Leatherwood, Cosmi, etc.  and moved up to grab Jones or Trask at the end of the first round?  The fourth overall pick would bring enough value to do that.  So now you look at the QB at #4 vs. Jones or Trask/Cosmi or Leatherwood later. 

We could then add a free agent G and draft a TE early---this offense would be scary-in 2021--with Anderson, Moore, a good TE, a good OL--CMC---re-sign Moton--what?

[AU-panther]

19 minutes ago, TheProcess said:

Unless Lawrence pulls a Eli Manning and tells the Jets he only wants to play for the Panthers. That would change the cost

Why would he tell them he only wants to play for the Panthers? 

First of all, won't happen, but even if it did they would probably still trade the pick to whoever gave a better deal and call his bluff.

 

[TheProcess]

3 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Why would he tell them he only wants to play for the Panthers? 

First of all, won't happen, but even if it did they would probably still trade the pick to whoever gave a better deal and call his bluff.

 

I was just using Eli as an example, it has happened before. I mean it is known Trevor loves Clemson, and could use a return as leverage. His love for Clemson and Dabo, knowing Joe Brady, and seeing the offensive talent in Carolina is enough reason. When both teams are at home, Trevor could catch Tiger games on Saturdays, Dabo could catch Trevor games in Sundays, a 2 hour commute. 

Very very unlikely, but it has happened in 2004

[SmokinwithWilly]

If Lawrence did pull an Eli, and the price was our 1st and Chinn, would we do it? 

[Pup McBarky]

3 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

If Lawrence did pull an Eli, and the price was our 1st and Chinn, would we do it? 

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, Pup McBarky said:

Why is that funny? If TL is the QB god everyone is claiming then it should be a trade made without hesitation shouldn't it? Swap 1sts and a DROY candidate to replace Adams and the Panthers get Sunshine. Shouldn't be a hard choice, should it?

[t96]

5 hours ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Can anyone think of a trade in the history of the NFL where a team traded away a boatload of picks for a single player and it worked out for them? I think trading away that much draft capital just pretty much dooms your team no matter how good the player you trade for is.

2 recent examples... Chiefs traded a lot to get Mahomes, way bigger risk than for Lawrence in terms of how good of prospects they are coming out of college. Also, Rams traded a ton to get Goff... Been one of the most successful teams since, despite Goff not being even close to elite.

[t96]

18 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

If Lawrence did pull an Eli, and the price was our 1st and Chinn, would we do it? 

I love Chinn but obviously.

[Pimpdaddy]

realistically what would it take to get Lawrence....  if he comes out and says..fk the jets early...we might have a chance...what do we give up? It would be a big sacrifice ...but hes worth it.