Let’s hope our new GM is good at evaluating college QBs

[NAS]

Everyone cites how Mahomes was a #10 pick but forget that most teams did not rank him that highly. We have traditionally been good at  evaluating linebackers, but seem to suck at evaluating QBs. From Kerry Collins to Jimmy Clausen to Will Grier, we have been awful. What changes have we seen from Tepper to suggest we can find a future QB outside of the concensus top picks?  Do you think this will be a focus when choosing a new GM? 

[Mr. Scot]

I can tell you this...

There's a really good pool of candidates to choose from this year.

[DeSim]

Definitely will play a huge role into whos the GM and what their plan is to acquire a franchise QB.  Seems we’ll be choosing most likely between Trey Lance and Mac Jones if we don’t trade up, I like both players, would definitely be excited with either or.  I could still see a trade up if Zach Wilson is still available by the time the Bengals or Eagles pick...

[Snake]

From where we are picking you can forget a QB. 

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

From where we are picking you can forget a QB. 

[Jon Snow]

Whoever is making the calls in the draft room is who I want capable of identifying talent.  Whether it's our new GM or Rhule.

[MHS831]

2 minutes ago, Snake said:

From where we are picking you can forget a QB. 

Captain Sunshine's perspective:

I think Lance could fall to us--and I am not yet sold on Trask--but I have watched Jones, and with a good OL and some stud WRs (we have them) and a solid running game, he could be developed.  And nobody is talking about Newman.  He probably needs a year of development if not more, but could he be the steal of the draft?

I agree that we killed our chances to get a top 3 talent--maybe top 4, and I do not like taking the fifth best player at any position with the ninth pick--we will either trade up or back if we are taking a QB---If we could add a second rounder and trade back to the 20th pick or so and take Mac Jones--maybe that will be play.

We definitely have fewer options. And with so many needs, it is unlikely that we move up far if at all.  I am so thankful Marty will not be in the room.

By the way, I think (unless we beat New Orleans) that we will ultimately end up with the seventh or eighth pick.  The NFC East has yet to play out.  The Giants, Lions, or Eagles have games they could win---

[WarPanthers89]

If 4 QBs get selected before #9 I’ll be shocked. If we lose next week #9 is the worst we will pick, and we could move up so I still see us being in a very favorable spot to get a QB we want. Tepper won’t be afraid to move up if needed also

[top dawg]

From what I've been listening to for the last 15 years here, I'm excited! The GM has to be a better scout than Hurney by default!

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Whoever is making the calls in the draft room is who I want capable of identifying talent.  Whether it's our new GM or Rhule.

We could look at Wilson and see reasons to stay away--Lance may not be a good fit.  Trask could be the QB we like---or they could go with Mac Jones--or Newman--or no QB at all.

If we pick at #8, for example, I just do not see  4 QBs gone in round 1 before we pick, and there are sites that are predicting (based on needs) that the Dolphins, Lions, and Giants go WR in round 1.  Cincinnati takes Sewell. 

Prediction:  If the Jets do not take Fields, the Falcons will.  Fields scares me (after the Indiana game, and the record of Ohio St. QBs in the NFL since Art Schlister.  )

 

[MHS831]

15 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

If 4 QBs get selected before #9 I’ll be shocked. If we lose next week #9 is the worst we will pick, and we could move up so I still see us being in a very favorable spot to get a QB we want. Tepper won’t be afraid to move up if needed also

Yeah, that is my mindset.  I think one will fall.  And I do not rule out Jones or Trask moving up after the combine.  And if Jamie Newman balls out at the SR Bowl and has a great combine....We could have 6-7 first round QBs.

[Snake]

7 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Captain Sunshine's perspective:

I think Lance could fall to us--and I am not yet sold on Trask--but I have watched Jones, and with a good OL and some stud WRs (we have them) and a solid running game, he could be developed.  And nobody is talking about Newman.  He probably needs a year of development if not more, but could he be the steal of the draft?

I agree that we killed our chances to get a top 3 talent--maybe top 4, and I do not like taking the fifth best player at any position with the ninth pick--we will either trade up or back if we are taking a QB---If we could add a second rounder and trade back to the 20th pick or so and take Mac Jones--maybe that will be play.

We definitely have fewer options. And with so many needs, it is unlikely that we move up far if at all.  I am so thankful Marty will not be in the room.

By the way, I think (unless we beat New Orleans) that we will ultimately end up with the seventh or eighth pick.  The NFC East has yet to play out.  The Giants, Lions, or Eagles have games they could win---

Saints will more than likely be resting their starters so the hope for not winning is slim. Still it's possible they don't. Even at 7 I'm not a huge fan of grabbing a QB that 6 needy teams passed on. I think we probably can pick up a good CB or maybe a DE at 7 but anything else might be a stretch and we need to land starters not projects. 

 

[MHS831]

14 minutes ago, Snake said:

Saints will more than likely be resting their starters so the hope for not winning is slim. Still it's possible they don't. Even at 7 I'm not a huge fan of grabbing a QB that 6 needy teams passed on. I think we probably can pick up a good CB or maybe a DE at 7 but anything else might be a stretch and we need to land starters not projects. 

 

Snake, I do not see them resting their starters.  Seattle has an identical record, and they will have the #3 seed as it stands.  They play SF at 4:30 Sunday.  The Saints will not know that outcome.  The Saints are positioned (if things don't change) to play the Bears.  The Seahawks will play the Rams.  The Rams have middle pressure (Aaron Donald) and Brees struggles against middle pressure (height) and now his ribs could be an issue.  He is better vs. outside pressure (Mack).  In addition, if a team were to upset Green Bay, the Saints would have home field advantage and not have to travel to Seattle---a west coast team.  I see them playing Hill if anything once they get a 2-score lead, but I do not anticipate them clearing the bench.

Once Seattle sees the Saints/Panthers results, they will sit their starters if New Orleans wins---because there is no other threat for the #3 seed.

[t96]

29 minutes ago, WarPanthers89 said:

If 4 QBs get selected before #9 I’ll be shocked. If we lose next week #9 is the worst we will pick, and we could move up so I still see us being in a very favorable spot to get a QB we want. Tepper won’t be afraid to move up if needed also

I agree. 3 probably go before us but I can't imagine all of the top 4 do. And if 3 do go before us then our decision is made and our GM doesn't even need to do much evaluating if we take a QB...