Panthers pick 8

[nctarheelreincarnated]

5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

The Seahawks haven't finished below .500 for nearly a decade. 

The Steelers have finished below .500 once in two decades. 

The Ravens have finished below .500 three times in two decades.

 

Sure you can pick out the Patriots, who are an anomaly as they had the GOAT QB, the GOAT HC and a culture that attracted FAs to play for them at below market rate, but we're never going to replicate that. 

Steelers were ass last year when their QB was out. Ravens and Seahawks haven't had QB problems either. Personnel is fine, but when you have a solid-great QB play. It's much easier to "draft the right personnel." Bad take is bad, regardless.

[nctarheelreincarnated]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Some do, some don't. The Pats are an interesting case. A number of years ago they were famous for getting a windfall of 2nd round picks they used to great success but more recently they have mainly made the biggest roster impacts by making free agency moves. 

It isn't all draft or all free agency. You can be mainly successful at one of those two and build a contending team. Multiple ways to skin that cat.

Exactly my point sir. Winning a meaningless game however...........

[45catfan]

58 minutes ago, CRA said:

so....we potentially could draft the 6th best QB.    This worked out well.  

Six QBs In the top 8 picks?  That would make NFL history.  Never has been done before. Not 5 or even 4.  Unless this draft bucks all NFL draft precedence, at most 3 QBs wil be gone before pick #8.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, nctarheelreincarnated said:

Exactly my point sir. Winning a meaningless game however...........

I don't feel like it is worth stressing over anymore. If we really want any of the guys available at 3 or 4 or wherever, we can trade up to get them. If we are convinced X guy is "The Guy" then I expect them to hustle to get them. If we don't think it is worth the price to trade up, then so be it, as well. 

Remember that is the one positive about this year and having a strong QB draft, it also increases the chances we can trade up into a slot to get one. And we have a nice spot at #8 to dangle for those that will want to still get a top 10 guy.

[musicman]

I do NOT was a QB at 8. If it's not Lawrence or Fields, pass. Not sure if I would want Wilson. I would love CB Surtain to fall to us. A true shutdown corner from day 1, along with Jackson who played better (smarter) would give this Defense what we need. Our D-line was getting better and a year under Gross-Matos's belt with Obada's continued growth, with Burns, Brown and Kerr gives a us a real decent Defense front. Sam Franklin and Burris were solid along with Chinn who was great, heck even Elder and Carter played good. I year under the system and this defense will be better. 

We can get 2 Offensive lineman in the 2nd-3rd-4th rounds. It's gonna take at least a FA - TE and MLB and then we have a real competitive chance. That's saying we sign Samuel and Moton. Give Teddy a year, and O-line and a healthy CMC, Robby, DJ & Curtis, along with OC Brady having a year under his belt and we could win 10 games and the division next year. I have my worries about Teddy but this was not a fair year to evaluate anything. 

[Growl]

I think you probably have to consider the eagles as a major threat to go QB, unless things with Wentz patch up spontaneously

[Kentucky Panther]

I cannot remember a year this team ever traded up in the draft.  Maybe we are due.  Surely there is a method to the madness that is the Panthers beating Washington last week.  We had top 3 if not top 4 in our laps, but here we are.  "Winning Culture" nut jobs are happy we won five games and get a mediocre pick. Fun times. 

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, Kentucky Panther said:

I cannot remember a year this team ever traded up in the draft.  Maybe we are due.  Surely there is a method to the madness that is the Panthers beating Washington last week.  We had top 3 if not top 4 in our laps, but here we are.  "Winning Culture" nut jobs are happy we won five games and get a mediocre pick. Fun times. 

Ummmm, you need to go back through Panthers history.

 

Our trade up's have normally bitten us in the ass.

[trueblade]

23 minutes ago, Growl said:

I think you probably have to consider the eagles as a major threat to go QB, unless things with Wentz patch up spontaneously

I think they saw enough from Hurts to feel confident going with him as their QB1 for 2021.

[Growl]

5 minutes ago, trueblade said:

I think they saw enough from Hurts to feel confident going with him as their QB1 for 2021.

Hurts is an undersized and underdeveloped second round pick who played a few mediocre games at the most important position in sports 

Philly has other avenues they can take to a QB and well see how it goes but the above doesn't say "nope we good" with great certainty

[Kentucky Panther]

13 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Ummmm, you need to go back through Panthers history.

 

Our trade up's have normally bitten us in the ass.

Maybe, I can't remember us ever trading up in the top ten before but I've been wrong in the past

[bababoey]

12 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Ummmm, you need to go back through Panthers history.

 

Our trade up's have normally bitten us in the ass.

Otah, Gamble, Brown (2nd round trade up but it cost us a 1st round in the following draft). Those are the only 3 I can think of.  Gamble was like 2 spots and it only cost us a 4th round pick but the other 2 cost us a 1st round pick the following year and then some.

[DeAngelo Beason]

1 hour ago, bababoey said:

 

 

Eagles can't get rid of Wentz this offseason.

A suitor for Wentz may consider taking part of that cap hit.

[DeAngelo Beason]

2 hours ago, SOJA said:

He's a tough eval but he appears to have every trait you'd look for in a QB

I'm just gonna be real here... reminds me too much of Cam.