Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Fox analyst says he heard that Watson has interest in Panthers!


top dawg
 Share

Recommended Posts

People think we are so much far off from contending than we are. Our dline is only going to get better, our LBs improved towards the end. We just need a few DBs and LB or 2 and we'll be steady enough on D. On offense, you don't need high end draft picks to build a line. Use mid-low round picks and FA to build it. Besides our line wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. There were many opportunities through out every game that we didn't make cause of Bridgewater. 

In other words, we are closer than we think. Do it.

  • Pie 6
Link to comment
Share on other sites

2 hours ago, jfra78 said:

It would be 2 first and McCaffery.  

Per Jonathan Jones...

The Panthers would have to unload Teddy Bridgewater and his contract if they wanted Watson, though it seems unlikely the Texans would want to take that on considering the way he played in 2020.

That'd mean the Panthers would have to trade something of substantial value with a quarterback to give and with the least desirable first-round spot among the group. Panthers owner David Tepper would have to part with Christian McCaffrey, the face of the franchise, and likely more. Defensive end Brian Burns, entering his third season in the league, would also likely be requested in order to get such a deal done.

NFL Insider Notes

So basically picks, McCaffrey and Burns

Edited by Mr. Scot
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, Proudiddy said:

I have to say, it's my opinion that the Texans have next to little leverage in this.  They can't pick the suitor because Watson has the no-trade clause. 

If he announces that he has asked for a trade publicly, that further undermines their leverage. 

McNair/Texans have 100% of "the leverage".

Watson has already "asked for a trade publicly"...it really is that simple. 

Bottom line, the McNair's don't need the money...

...Watson does. 

I hope the team plays hardball with him...

  • Poo 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

McNair/Texans have 100% of "the leverage".

Watson has already "asked for a trade publicly"...it really is that simple. 

Bottom line, the McNair's don't need the money...

...Watson does. 

I hope the team plays hardball with him...

I hope he plays hardball with the Texans. Just like Harden basically manipulated the situation by half-assing it with the Rockets, Watson can do the same thing with the Texans, and it ain't really poo they can do about it. They can sit him down, but he's still going to be getting paid! They don't need those types of problems because it can screw up team morale and chemistry, and set them back even further. Their best bet is to take a reasonable deal and get out of the situation (of their making) ASAP!

Edited by top dawg
Link to comment
Share on other sites

My philosophy is that you do not trade 4 first round picks for 1 first round pick.

The cost for DW is 3 first rounders, and a first round talent (CMC, Burns, DJ).

That's 4 starters, for 1 starter. 4 > 1. Deshaun couldn't win a division even with some great weapons around, and one of the best defenders / leaders in the league. 

You never trade 4 guys for 1 guy, because this league isn't about 1 guy. It's about 53 guys.

  • Pie 4
  • Beer 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

 Just like Harden basically manipulated the situation by half-assing it with the Rockets, Watson can do the same thing with the Texans, and it ain't really poo they can do about it.

They can sit him down l, but he's still going to be getting paid!

Are you suggesting DeShaun should go down the road of painting himself as a low-character, anti-team guy like James Harden?

My sense is DeShaun cares about keeping his good reputation intact. 

Sitting "him down" isn't part of the equation....LOL.  If DeShaun wants to force the issue he's gonna have to hold out which means his income stream s-t-o-p-s.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

5 minutes ago, GOAT said:

My philosophy is that you do not trade 4 first round picks for 1 first round pick.

The cost for DW is 3 first rounders, and a first round talent (CMC, Burns, DJ).

That's 4 starters, for 1 starter. 4 > 1. Deshaun couldn't win a division even with some great weapons around, and one of the best defenders / leaders in the league. 

You never trade 4 guys for 1 guy, because this league isn't about 1 guy. It's about 53 guys.

That being said, this would be my reaction if we traded for DW.

Celebrate Dj Khaled GIF

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Are you suggesting DeShaun should go down the road of painting himself as a low-character, anti-team guy like James Harden?

My sense is DeShaun cares about keeping his good reputation intact. 

Sitting "him down" isn't part of the equation....LOL.  If DeShaun wants to force the issue he's gonna have to hold out which means his income stream s-t-o-p-s.

LOL @ Harden being a low character guy!  He got exactly what he wanted, and anybody of import is holding it against him!

The Texans' hand will be forced one way or another, and Watson will get paid by them in dead cap, AND by someone else--top dollar! That's the power of the no-trade clause!

Edited by top dawg
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

LOL @ Harden being a low character guy! 

The Texans' hand will be forced one way or another, and Watson will get paid by them in dead cap, AND by someone else--top dollar! That's the power of the no-trade clause!

Really?  So much for your moral compass...

DeShaun can't "force" the Texans to do anything...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • It all sounds great. The only unknowns are injuries and how they will need to be addressed. Horn has a history as does the newly added Jaelen Phillips and Cooker has yet to play an entire season as well. And then there are the Ikey's - totally unexpecteded injuries that put a major wrench in your plans. I do think its a great plan though.
    • If we pay Bryce like a franchise QB we're completely and utterly buttfuged.
    • In my view, the realistic expectation for this team to compete will start 2027.  At that time, I think we could be looking at the following (this is HIGHLY speculative):   QB:  You know, Bryce.  I am not a fan, but they don't ask me.  But there is reason for hope--and here it is.  Bryce will be entering his prime.  Since we are likely to pay him, there will be changes that I include throughout this exercise--I realistically speculate on what they are going to do with Bryce and then I realistically speculate on what means in terms of the cap and other positions. Bryce HAS IMPROVED.  The idea is that if you give him more weapons and protection, that will continue.  His career:   At this rate, if his growth continues, by 2027 we should expect nearly 30 TDs and about 12 Interceptions and a Rating of about 98.  His completion percentage should settle at 65-66% or so.  If that happens, you can win with it. The following stats demonstrate how the Panthers will be able to afford it (and re-sign Ickey) My guess is they will require about $60m per year. This is why rookies who can play are important.  It also helps us see the blueprint.  You may disagree, but this is the cruel realities of the salary cap. Robert Hunt:  Cut post June 1 and save $19m.  Who do you replace him with?  Ickey. Tershawn Wharton:  Cutting him saves nearly $15m.  We should all hope to see Aaron Hall (UDFA) make the roster and play well.  Regardless, this is a position we would likely have to address in the next draft. Trevin Moehrig:  Cutting Moehrig as the starting SS saves this team $16.5m.   Ransom will be on year 3 of a cheap rookie deal and should be more than ready to take the reins.  their styles are similar.  Furthermore, FS Wheatley (R, 4th round) will be starting. Taylor Moton:  So much depends on his knee, but I have an idea that he can play another 3 years.  extending him could save the team about $5m per year.  Cutting him outright would save the team about $21m. In the most drastic situation, we have to cut Moton and the other three players mentioned.   We would need (in all likelihood) a starting DT and RT.  It is possible that the DE would be addressed, but Wharton's production (so far) could be equaled by a rookie.  Look for a cut free agent and a 2027 draft pick here.  If you cut Moton, you save $21m, and that would be the only big hole to fill.  Having Ickey at RG gives you some depth at T, and Ickey could be the guy.  T could be pick in the 2027 draft (first round), fwiw.  It saves you $21m while costing you $5m, for example. We get younger, creating a core of Freeling, Hecht, and the RT first rounder in 2027) along with Ekownu (second contract in the $15m range, and Lewis, whose contract would be in the $16m range if not extended.)  The OL cuts (Hunt, Moton) would save $40m.  The OL would get younger and still solid with veterans at G.   By cutting Wharton (no brainer if his play stays the same) and Moehrig (good player--but we have Ransom on a rookie contract who would not be that much of a drop off--if any) in addition to Hunt and Moton, we would save over $70m in cap room. We would be able to give Bryce bag  and we would have enough to re-sign Ickey (if the knee is not too risky) to a Guard contract (probably at a discount, coming off that injury).  Furthermore, we could add a RT in the draft (or a RG if Ickey moves to RT) and that would be the only large hole to fill. Correct my logic if you see issues-- On defense, in addition to the aforementioned, Scott ($2m contract) is out, replaced by a 4th round rookie contract. CB Jackson's contract ($7.8m) expires and he is (possibly) replaced by a rookie contract.  At Edge, patrick Jones II's $10m contract expires and he is likely a reserve, and his role is absorbed by Phillips, Scourton, Princely, and possible an UDFA like Isaiah Smith or a 2027 draft pick.   These productive developmental players over the past 2 drafts will pay huge dividends.  On paper, I see the team getting much younger and possibly better while cutting nearly $100m and reallocating that money to get more production.          
×
×
  • Create New...