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Fox analyst says he heard that Watson has interest in Panthers!

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10 hours ago, top dawg said:

 

The Texans' hand will be forced one way or another, and Watson will get paid by them in dead cap, AND by someone else--top dollar! That's the power of the no-trade clause!

Dead cap money was already paid to him in form of sighing bonus. Dead Cap is only an accounting treatment that applies the bonus to the teams cap over the length of the contract. He won' get paid by both he will just get his normal salary from the new team and any roster or workout bonus. 

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2 hours ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Everything you said is spot on. The problem arises when the cellar dwellers chime in with  ridiculously inflated offers that we can't remotely match. That's when I hope we will laugh in their face. 

 Someone will assuredly out bid us. Our only hope is his list of teams will be short. If the Jets or Dolphins are in the mix then we're pretty much out. They have to much fire power.

DeShauns no trade clause gives him control of where he may land. That's why they're looking to him to see where he may allow a trade to happen. It's in his court. Unless he stays.

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I'm so tired of the conservative  boring moves this franchise makes. The same moves that have led this team to never having back to back winning seasons. 

People saying we can't compete if we trade away assets....we can't compete anyway! Look at the last 4 teams standing, what do they have in common? Elite qbs. Don't have one?...you dont have a shot.

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The team isn’t rich in exposable young talent, nor do we have a young qb that could be a good dart throw (like darnold or tua). I just think it’s gonna way too expensive to bring him in. I get it that hes 25 and in his prime, id rather roll the dice with what we get in this draft or get stafford for much cheaper.

 

Or get Minshew like I’ve been saying and see what party boy can do!

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46 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Dead cap money was already paid to him in form of sighing bonus. Dead Cap is only an accounting treatment that applies the bonus to the teams cap over the length of the contract. He won' get paid by both he will just get his normal salary from the new team and any roster or workout bonus. 

I don't get into the minutiae of these contractual rules, but appreciate the people that do. I learned something!

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48 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

I'm so tired of the conservative  boring moves this franchise makes. The same moves that have led this team to never having back to back winning seasons. 

People saying we can't compete if we trade away assets....we can't compete anyway! Look at the last 4 teams standing, what do they have in common? Elite qbs. Don't have one?...you dont have a shot.

Not only that, but Fitterer has earned his lunch money scouting mid to later round players and UDFAs! You can't be a scared motherfuger, and the Seahawks, as well as other successful franchises, aren't timid about trades or trading back and somehow still continue to compete year in and out!

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11 hours ago, top dawg said:

No one can make you work if you don't want to!

If you feel lied to and otherwise exploited...you can quit! 

The Texans can't force him to do anything either! 

Agreed.  No work, no pay, no health care, no retirement accrual, endorsements go away, etc. 

Agreed.  Quit and pay stops, health care stops, retirement accrual stops, endorsements go away, etc.

Agreed.  Nor are they obligated to accommodate with a trade.  

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51 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

DeShauns no trade clause gives him control of where he may land. That's why they're looking to him to see where he may allow a trade to happen. It's in his court. Unless he stays.

Folks seem to be ignoring the fact that the Texans are not obligated to trade DW. 

If it comes down to dropping the no-trade provision and getting out...

...or having to stay...

...which do you believe DW will choose?

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1 minute ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Agreed.  No work, no pay, no health care, no retirement accrual, endorsements go away, etc. 

Agreed.  Quit and pay stops, health care stops, retirement accrual stops, endorsements go away, etc.

Agreed.  Nor are they obligated to accommodate with a trade.  

It sounds like you're putting 19th and 20th century antiquated solutions on a pedestal, but there's a better way to do things in this day and age...

Anyway, Watson is already a multi millionaire, who literally has to never work again in life depending on how he manages his money, and will still be able to afford all those things that you mentioned.

The fact is is that he has a modicum of control in this situation whether you like it or not! And, if he decides that he's done playing for the Texans, the trade will happen, and it's going to be to a destination that he wants to go to! That's the bottom line! 

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1 minute ago, top dawg said:

It sounds like you're putting 19th and 20th century antiquated solutions on a pedestal...

Anyway, Watson is already a multi millionaire...depending on how he manages his money, and will still be able to afford all those things that you mentioned.

The fact is is that he has a modicum of control...if he decides that he's done playing for the Texans, the trade will happen, and it's going to be to a destination that he wants to go to! That's the bottom line! 

Nope, just 2021 contractual law. 

You should look into how many NFL players go broke. 

Not necessarily. 

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9 minutes ago, SizzleBuzz said:

Folks seem to be ignoring the fact that the Texans are not obligated to trade DW. 

If it comes down to dropping the no-trade provision and getting out...

...or having to stay...

...which do you believe DW will choose?

If they keep him locked up in contractual purgatory, his refusal to play for them, or, worse, play under contentious circumstances that affect and effect the desired results, will bring them to their knees, and they're already pretty low! 

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