ESPN's Jeremy Fowler: The sense around the league is the Panthers will be competitive in trade talks surrounding Matt Stafford

[45catfan]

4 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I'm not even opposed to Pitts. Watching how Kelce absolutely decimated teams even when they plan for him shows how important that position really is. We have really suffered at the TE position since Greg broke his foot the first time. 

Only if we trade back, but not at #8.  Dude, you have no idea how long I've been barking up the TE tree.  This year though, our priorities are elsewhere.  If our guy isn't there at #8 and we move back several spots...I'm game.

Edited January 26, 2021 by 45catfan

[Hoenheim]

If they're really wanting to trade the future away do it for Fields or Wilson . I wouldn't do it for any fa qb not named Watson . 

[Growl]

if this happens I am going to start to suspect that this is simply a poorly ran organization

 

the Bridgewater signing was terrible, but it was, so far, an isolated incident

this would be indicative of a trend

[Growl]

I feel like we've got to worry about both the new in house QB coach and Joe Brady who quite demonstrably views this job as nothing more than a stepping stone stint actively campaigning for a guy who yields the easiest, quickest results for them

[Beerfacedlegend]

Do it 

[TriggaPlease89]

This is all speculation. Jimmy G was traded for a 2nd, so to me that is a starting point to guess. A 1st straight of depending on where in the draft is there also but for the 8th overall pick the Lions would have to take Teddy off our hands also. Don’t see this happening honestly. Logistics wise we don’t look suited to be the best trade partner for any QB unless Teddy is involved too. If not thats a major sunken cost for the organization.

[CarolinaNCSU]

#8 is off the table for Stafford IMO.  Next year's 1st maybe, or this year's 2nd and a mid rounder.  Anything beyond that and I'd prefer to trade up for a rookie QB if we have to. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

11 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Only if we trade back, but not at #8.  Dude, you have no idea how long I've been barking up the TE tree.  This year though, our priorities are elsewhere.  If our guy isn't there at #8 and we move back several spots...I'm game.

Of course I would rather trade back if we can pick up extra picks. The question is how far do we want to move. 15 is about as far as I want to drop down. Now if I could pull of some first-pick trades and end up with 7 2nds and still have a pick in the first, well then, I might be willing to drop into the late 20s. 

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, TriggaPlease89 said:

This is all speculation. Jimmy G was traded for a 2nd, so to me that is a starting point to guess. A 1st straight of depending on where in the draft is there also but for the 8th overall pick the Lions would have to take Teddy off our hands also. Don’t see this happening honestly. Logistics wise we don’t look suited to be the best trade partner for any QB unless Teddy is involved too. If not thats a major sunken cost for the organization.

Jimmy was a backup then.  Everyone being discussed now are starters.   Your reference point is way off.

[ickmule]

Man, If they are that dumb we might have to boycott next season.  First Teddy and now Stafford ? Please don’t do this. 

[TLGPanthersFan]

If we get Stafford Bridgewater will have to be apart of the trade because Stafford is going to want to go somewhere he can start day one. 
I am still not convinced Stafford will want to go to a team that, at best, may be a fringe playoff team next year, and I am being generous. 
Colts are a better destination and I am more confident that he would prefer to go to them. 
He is essentially coming to another Lions team with us. Rebuilding and not ready to compete yet. 
If Stafford is going to be able to control the team he wants to go to the Panthers are the last place he’d want to go. 

[TriggaPlease89]

Just now, 45catfan said:

Jimmy was a backup then.  Everyone being discussed now are starters.   Your reference point is way off.

I was going to use Nick Foles but he fetched a 4th and he was a SB winning QB. So enlighten me, without bias speculation, what a good starting point should be. Last time I checked starting QBs are not traded often. 

[45catfan]

Stafford ain't coming to Carolina unless the front office can somehow convince him we are further along in this rebuild that everyone else can plainly see.  Stafford has said he's not interested in being part of a rebuild.  We are just in year two, so yes, we are STILL rebuilding.

[Harbingers]

He's not worth a 2021 first. 2022 at the maximum.