Verge's Draft General thread 2021

[Jay Roosevelt]

Yeah... pass.

[Moo Daeng]

At that weight he better be a pass rushing machine but he's not.  6' 250lbs, maybe he should try running back with those measurables?

Edited March 25, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[Moo Daeng]

I don't believe any of these numbers are accurate though.

[Mother Grabber]

hopefully someone will take him above 8, helping our cause to get fields or lance

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, Icege said:

That man about to get paid

wow

[KSpan]

1 hour ago, Icege said:

That man about to get paid

Mike Mamula, 2021 edition.

[Moo Daeng]

16 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Mike Mamula, 2021 edition.

Except Mike Mamula actually produced at BC. He had 12 sacks as a Junior playing OLB and 17 sacks as a senior playing DE.

This guy had zero this year.

Edited March 25, 2021 by Moo Daeng

[LinvilleGorge]

Beware the Dion Jordans. When there's a massive gap between the physical tools and the production that's as big of a red flag there is.

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Beware the Dion Jordans. When there's a massive gap between the physical tools and the production that's as big of a red flag there is.

Also beware the smoked up numbers on 40 times. You pretty much cannot trust almost any of these 40 times.

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Also beware the smoked up numbers on 40 times. You pretty much cannot trust almost any of these 40 times.

Agreed. Pro day 40s almost always seem to be miraculously faster than Combine times. Remember when Funchess ran 4.7 at the Combine then supposedly sub 4.5 at his pro day? Sure...

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Agreed. Pro day 40s almost always seem to be miraculously faster than Combine times. Remember when Funchess ran 4.7 at the Combine then supposedly sub 4.5 at his pro day? Sure...

Yep. They are usually hand timed versus laser timed. The NFL laser timing is a little suspect too but at least it is standardized across the board. 

[Icege]

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/jayson-oweh-nfl-draft-player-profile-penn-state-edge/

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In 2020, Gross-Matos left for the NFL, leaving Toney and Oweh as the starters at edge rusher. Hopes were high for the athletic duo, and especially Oweh, who seemed primed to breakout. He more than doubled his sack totals from 2018 to 2019, and with another year of refinement, excitement began to brew.

On the surface, the results were less inspiring for Oweh. He went the entire 2020 season without getting a sack.

However, these stats were somewhat misleading. Oweh still provided consistent disruption, and he logged career highs in both tackles and tackles for loss, with 38 and 6.5, respectively. By December, Oweh had an 18% win rate as a pass rusher, one of the highest figures in the Big Ten conference.

Coaches recognized Oweh’s under-the-radar disruptive ability, awarding him with first-team All-Conference honors. Oweh also anticipated that NFL scouts would see the same thing on tape. He officially declared for the 2021 NFL Draft on December 26.

You can tell who does their research and who doesn't. 

Edited March 25, 2021 by Icege

[ForJimmy]

I think a lot of players had issues in the Big 10 with the late start and constant delay/canceling of games due to COVID. It’s another reason why I’m high on Fields. He had a couple bad games in a very unusual year. He was great his previous year and still had plenty of solid games and flashes of greatness this year.

[TrevorLaurenceTime22]

7 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

wow

Realistically he's Brian Burns with 0 production, He's a 4.5 guy with electronic timing.