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Go on record. Who still wants Watson?

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16 minutes ago, MGH1989 said:

You’re projecting. You have no idea what the evidence is b/c none of this has even gone to litigation. You’re just assuming this can’t be real b/c of the timing. No one knows what happened other than Deshaun and the girls. You don’t know, I don’t know, and the Panthers don’t know. With that uncertainty it would be absolutely stupid to trade for him. You have to let the legal  process play out and that is gonna happen later rather than sooner. You also understand this is a civil lawsuit? The burden of proof is much lower than a criminal claim. In layman’s terms it’s basically a little over 50% chance. If the girls have texts and other evidence it’s not impossible to meet that burden. But again, no one knows the evidence. So, at this point trading for Watson would be absolutely batshit.

civil settlement means nothing. 

at most he might miss a few games. 

again, nothing to be concerned about. 

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13 minutes ago, Agent Blue said:

civil settlement means nothing. 

at most he might miss a few games. 

again, nothing to be concerned about. 

It  most absolutely does mean something. Especially if he is convicted of any of the civil lawsuits. You don’t need choir boys in the NFL, but having the face of your franchise be convicted of sexual misconduct even if it’s just Civil is very weighty. Some of y’all need to stop acting like fanboys and come at this from a business standpoint.

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2 hours ago, BrianS said:

Based on?  He said / she said?  No charges have been filed.  No arrests have been made.

I don't know what if anything Watson is guilty of.  Nor do you.  Nor does our team.

Let me run this scenario by you.  Let's say you're the Texans.  You know Watson wants out.  You want him to stay.  What better way to keep him around than to make him appear to be completely toxic?  We've all been so focused on seeing it from our side, we've failed to see it from the other side.

My scenario protects our team if we trade.  We lose nothing if Watson is suspended.  The Texans gain nothing.  Bear that in mind.  My scenario was a hypothetical scenario where Watson is cleared.

Maybe he is guilty of . . . something?  I dunno.  The fact that no legal charges have been filed is a red flag.  I'm not even sure a REPORT has been filed.  Certainly no legal investigation.

A civil lawsuit is what happens when someone wants something but doesn't actually have a good legal case.  The burden of proof is SUBSTANTIALLY lower in a civil suit.  That's why those cases are typically settled quietly and out of court.

No team knows nothing other than the fact of 16 law suits. I don't care whether you believe him innocent or not. It doesn't matter. 

No franchise with good decision makers at it's lead is going to bring him in until things are settled. Period. 

You're the one that just doesn't get it. 

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9 hours ago, MGH1989 said:

It  most absolutely does mean something. Especially if he is convicted of any of the civil lawsuits. You don’t need choir boys in the NFL, but having the face of your franchise be convicted of sexual misconduct even if it’s just Civil is very weighty. Some of y’all need to stop acting like fanboys and come at this from a business standpoint.

There is no such thing as convictions from civil suits. Either you win a civil suit, or you lose a civil suit, or you settle it without it going to the judge/jury etc. 

I am precisely coming at this from a business standpoint. No one cares about civil cases. If it had any real legs it would be criminal. Civil cases are just people trying to make some money off of rich people. Nothing more, nothing less. 

 

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24 minutes ago, rayzor said:

We better hope there isnt much to all this because he may be our best hope at this point.

 

Even if all this is valid, is it better to have a douche QB and win or a decent guy and suck?

Aaron Rodgers is a douche. So is Brees. Hell, some would argue Cam. There's a HUGE gap between a run of the mill douche and a serial sexual predator. Watson has to clear these allegations up before I'd consider him.

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20 hours ago, Agent Blue said:

20 women out of the blue during his dispute with houston. Yea not worried in the slightest. 

as I said, rap is damn near impossible to prove if you wait to go to the police. 

worst case he pays off some of these girls in a civil suit. 

It's like you have been detached from reality for two decades.

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