What are we doing in the draft?

[mrcompletely11 1,981]

3 minutes ago, panthers320 said:

This clip doesnt have the 4th quarter so you have to watch the whole game film

Chase Young didnt have any qb pressures when lined against Slater.  And you just said there were numerous

https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-draft-ot-rashawn-slaters-performance-vs-chase-young-shows-firstround-potential-191407718.html

 

Heres an article saying how he is a 2nd round pick preseason.  Oh wait my bad its a first round grade after that game

 

[panthers320 88]

11 minutes ago, panthers320 said:

This clip doesnt have the 4th quarter so you have to watch the whole game film

Game times in the 4th:

12:50 he gets beat inside and his guy bats the ball down

10:28 he gets stood up at the line on a run behind him and the RB is tackled for a loss

7:14 he runs blocks and gets pushed into blocking his own guy

5:40 he gets blown up and his guy almost makes a tackle in the backfield on a run play to his side

4:02 complete whiffs on a pulling run block

2:42 gave up pressure on the outside 

Edited April 8 by panthers320

[panthers320 88]

I never said he was a 2nd rounder

[mrcompletely11 1,981]

2 minutes ago, panthers320 said:

12:50 he gets beat inside and his guy bats the ball down

10:28 he gets stood up at the line on a run behind him and the RB is tackled for a loss

7:14 he runs blocks and gets pushed into blocking his own guy

5:40 he gets blown up and his guy almost makes a tackle in the backfield on a run play to his side

4:02 complete whiffs on a pulling run block

2:42 gave up pressure on the outside 

Your time stamps are way off

[panthers320 88]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

Your time stamps are way off

Sorry those are the times in the game during the 4th quarter

[Aussie Tank 473]

18 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Agreed, but they both already had QBs.

Mayfield was in the Darnold category before competent coaching and better protection

[ForJimmy 2,812]

8 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Mayfield was in the Darnold category before competent coaching and better protection

Yeah that’s a fair point. They were running out of time with him.

[ImaginaryKev 7,440]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Agreed. If Fields is there, take him. If we aren't going QB and the phone is ringing, at least listen.

I'm a huge UNC fan but Brown scares me. Dude's hands are VERY hit or miss and while he's fast he's not Ginn fast. The hands are comparable though. The more wide open he is the more likely the drop.

I'd take him or someone like Tylan Wallace

[PantherKyle 321]

1 hour ago, Aussie Tank said:

Mayfield was in the Darnold category before competent coaching and better protection

Mayfield broke the record for most TD passes thrown by a rookie. He had a down 2019 with Kitchens, but this narrative doesn't fit.

[Aussie Tank 473]

4 hours ago, PantherKyle said:

Mayfield broke the record for most TD passes thrown by a rookie. He had a down 2019 with Kitchens, but this narrative doesn't fit.

The competent coaching narrative does fit Baker has had a year and a half of it while Darnold none 

[panthers320 88]

7 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Nah man you said multiple scouts had him as a day 2 pick.  Normally how this works is when you proclaim something like that you have to show your work.  Show me where multiple scouts had him round 2 preseason. 

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/04/27/way-too-early-nfl-2021-mock-draft

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/insider/story/_/id/29292331/2021-nfl-mock-draft-todd-mcshay-early-predictions-all-32-first-round-picks

https://lastwordonsports.com/nfl/2020/10/09/way-too-early-in-the-2020-season-2021-nfl-mock-draft/

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2888826-2021-nfl-mock-draft-matt-millers-way-too-early-predictions

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2020/08/04/touchdown-wires-way-too-early-2021-mock-draft/4/

 

Here are 5 Way Too Early 2021 Mock Drafts from 2020 and none of them have Slater in the 1st round.

[ForJimmy 2,812]

11 hours ago, PantherKyle said:

Mayfield broke the record for most TD passes thrown by a rookie. He had a down 2019 with Kitchens, but this narrative doesn't fit.

https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/29399116
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/dawgpounddaily.com/2020/12/05/colin-cowherd-baker-mayfield-loss-titans/amp/
 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sportscasting.com/cleveland-browns-legend-hints-at-disaster-ahead-for-baker-mayfield/%3famp
 

it wasn’t an uncommon thought to assume the Browns were ready to move on from him even during the beginning of 2020. He also had waaay better weapons than Darnold. They fixed his line and got him a smart coach and he led them right to the playoffs. I know I’m a Fields guy, but this is a strong argument for us to draft a LT at 8...

[LinvilleGorge 51,389]

17 hours ago, Harbingers said:

Normally I’d agree with you 99.99% of the time but I think Parsons is that special case. 

Honestly, I'm not 100% sold that Zaven Collins shouldn't be considered the best LB prospect in this class. Dude gives me Urlacher vibes.

[MHS831 15,687]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Honestly, I'm not 100% sold that Zaven Collins shouldn't be considered the best LB prospect in this class. Dude gives me Urlacher vibes.

I came very close to calling him one of the generational talents of this draft  (non QB)--along with Sewell, Chase, and Pitts.