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PFF grade on throws past first read since 2019

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But if they didn't play for a team you like then it doesn't count!

At this point I just don't know what our brain trust likes or thinks. Hopefully one of those guys will be available.

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It has been weird to me how so many are criticizing Fields for not being able to go past his first read when that's all I saw from Mac Jones. In the games I watched, seems like he never made it past his first read 90% of the time. Then again, when your 1st read is often the Heisman winning WR, well...

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8 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

https://www.facebook.com/297103346261/posts/10157574656686262/

PFF grade on throws past 1st read since 2019: (min. 60 attempts)

1st - Justin Fields - 90.6
2nd - Zach Wilson - 90.1
3rd - Trey Lance - 87.2
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7th - Trevor Lawrence - 78.6
8th - Mac Jones - 75.7

 

As always with PFF, their grades are awful - just a bunch of blokes in their basements watching tape and guessing.

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17 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

As always with PFF, their grades are awful - just a bunch of blokes in their basements watching tape and guessing.

well, it is true that the recent hot takes about Justin Fields have been fictional and bogus.   The only a one read QB stuff.    That is the clearly people just repeating the same false narrative.  Watching his games easily disproves that part. 

Trevor Lawrence does throw to his first read as much as anyone being discussed.   Just a fact.  Doesn't mean he can't read a D.  Clemson O by design inflates that number. 

PFF will always suffer because of not actually knowing the playcall.    And not knowing that messes the ability to grade certain plays correctly.  But they get a lot of things right. 

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Just out of curiosity, did they somehow factor in how many times that first look was just to look off a defender?

It's an interesting statistical glance, but considering the crop of players they were working with, both Lawrence and Jones had receivers so above their competition that second reads weren't as necessary possibly.

In the end, stats give evidence, but they can't give any proof when it comes to this. So many moving pieces in the college game, and it only becomes so much more complex at the pro level. The worst thing for all of these top picks is that most of them are going to really bad teams, with really, really bad coaching staffs and they will be facing the toughest competition in their lives. 

There will be a couple of really good QBs that will be destroyed by bad coaching and bad protection before this is done who could have been super stars had they ended up on a better team. There's actually a chance we could be one of those terrible destinations right now. 

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If you hit your first read at almost 80 percent of the time that is a good thing.  This is really overblown in Fields case IMO.

But that's not going to happen when your team isn't head and shoulders above the opponent talent wise.

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5 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

It's too bad QB's like Lance, Fields and Mond are so lazy while Lawrence, Wilson, Jones and Davis are such hard working good kids. 

-ESPN (April 5th, 2021)

 

5 minutes ago, Riverboat Ron said:

It's too bad QB's like Lance, Fields and Mond are so lazy while Lawrence, Wilson, Jones and Davis are such hard working good kids. 

-ESPN (April 5th, 2021)

That will get you put in the Tinderbox.  I shared a similar article that also showed fields’ offensive plays and where his reads were...now in Tinderbox

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