Panthers trade for Sam Darnold

[Basbear]

6 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Fitterer has a scarcity mentality that was triggered even more by his failure to snag the much better QBs earlier in FA. Even so, I am going to stop making negative posts about this situation. I am hoping for the best from here on out unless someone replies me about my earlier posts.

Warson was plan A,B,C,E and F. Teppers' thirst for a QB was boundless, like my guy @SizzleBuzz states fritterer reports to Tepper and does his bidding. Darnold was plan X. Other plans H,J,M etc were trade up for a QB. Darnold was the 2:57 am girl in the club parking lot. 

 

Edited April 5, 2021 by Basbear

[Growl]

4 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Yeah I have no idea who is to blame but 2020, especially in a covid year, should’ve been a tank job as much as possible. Get the cap right, sign one year deals, play Grier or Allen and work towards a push this year in 2021. Doesn’t mean tank the games but set yourself up the best possible way for the future with draft capital and cap space. Instead we’re gonna be stuck here for a loooooooong time.
 

It’s like we freak out and get desperate all the fuging time. I was really looking forward to a slow burning rebuild with a top franchise qb pick that we build a solid team around but that ain’t happening.

if Rhule and co. Don’t get a franchise qb they will be fired before their contract is up. 

every great and up and coming QB in the league plays in the afc, unless you like Daniel Jones or kyler Murray more than most people do, they all play in the afc

the panthers had this insane opportunity presented to them to take a chance on the only long term star QB in the conference and they just did this

no foresight now just as there wasn’t with the teddy signing

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

5-0 and we paid him $60m for 3 years---he looked good to someone.

Unfortunately, slot of the same people who just traded a pretty nice haul to get Sam Darnold. We're fans of a really dumb organization.

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, Sir Purr said:

You guys will whine about anything.....

Panthers average 6 wins the last three years, so yea you’ll tend to see that.

But I guess if we make that half a decade we can bump that sucker up to 6.8.

 

[ForJimmy]

Let’s see what we get for Teddy and how the draft goes. If we roll out next season with Darnold starting while Lance/Fields get up to speed I will be very happy. If we get a 3rd/4th for Teddy than this deal really isn’t that bad...

[Memphis]

Was the price we paied to rich? We will have to wait to find out.

But the 2nd rounder in 2022 could end up being a borderline 3rd rounder if we play well in 2021. Also if we decide to trade down we could receive a 2nd round pick back? The coaching staff must also see Darnold as a better player than Teddy and he has room to grow at only 24 from a poo team. The trade also prevents us for going ape poo desperate in the draft trying to trade up to the 5th spot (Bengals haven't historically traded much in the 1st round and Falcons wont trade with us) and we probably couldn't get the QB we liked more than Darnold either way in that spot or the 6th.
 

The flexibility it gives us sitting pretty at 8th I like. We can trade down or stay put and pick BPA either Pitts, Penei, Slater, Surtain, Parsons or Chase as Fitterer and Rhule sees best fit.

 

[pantherj]

1 minute ago, Basbear said:

Warson was plan A,B,C,E and F. Teppers' thirst for a QB was boundless, like my guy @SizzleBuzz fritterer reports to Tepper and does his bidding. Darnold was plan X, others plans H,J,M etc were trade up for a QB. Darnold was the 2:57 am girl in the club parking lot. 

 

NO ONE, no one, had Darnold as their top priority. Yes it's desperation. Like the fat chick at the end of the bar after last call.

[TeamDK]

This makes me exited. Not about Darnold, but about us having almost our entire 2021 draft intact. This is a relative low risk trade. Losing our 2nd rounder next year is poo, but that was most likely the price for not wanting to give up anything this year.  

If the options was 

Trading 3 1st rounders for Lance

Trading for SD
Going into the season with Teddy two yds

Then we made the right decision

[Basbear]

7 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Can we blame Hurney for this? What's the the statute of limitations?

After this and the Cam Erving and Pat Elflein signing, it truly feels like hes still here. 

[MHS831]

2 minutes ago, Rags said:

Now Darnold makes a ton of dumb mistakes and has the Wentz habbit of trying to be Pat M/Arod, and my biggest concern is his pre snap reading ability, but there's far more capable people than me that have pointed out how bad consistently fuging bad the Jets playcalling was and how routinely his weapons let him down.

If he's coachable and shows improvement I'll be happy. Much like Wentz though it was a perfect storm of bullshit.

About 50% of QBs taken in Round 1 are starting on a second contract.   Many become Walmart employees.  So there is risk, and we selected a top 4 QB who was thrown into one of the worst situations any rookie has ever inherited, and he struggled.  Shocked?  And I honestly think they were trying to throw games, evidenced with the Williams firing mid season--so who knows how many of the play calls were BS---I dunno--but giving away a 2022 second rounder is a very small price to pay vs. the 3 third rounders we might pay for a bust.

[Carl Spackler]

He's never once had the weapons he now has at his disposal. I'm predicting FAR fewer two-yard dump-offs on third and 6, at least. Not crazy about what we gave up, but we typically suck in the draft anyway, so it was worth kicking the tires on a guy who's never gotten a fair shake and who has some mobility as well as an arm.

[pantherj]

3 minutes ago, TeamDK said:

This makes me exited. Not about Darnold, but about us having almost our entire 2021 draft intact. This is a relative low risk trade. Losing our 2nd rounder next year is poo, but that was most likely the price for not wanting to give up anything this year.  

If the options was 

Trading 3 1st rounders for Lance

Trading for SD
Going into the season with Teddy two yds

Then we made the right decision

LOL those were not the reasonable choices.

Edited April 5, 2021 by pantherj

[pantherj]

1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

He's never once had the weapons he now has at his disposal. I'm predicting FAR fewer two-yard dump-offs on third and 6, at least. Not crazy about what we gave up, but we typically suck in the draft anyway, so it was worth kicking the tires on a guy who's never gotten a fair shake and who has some mobility as well as an arm.

We're giving him another chance. We're very charitable and kind.

[MHS831]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Unfortunately, slot of the same people who just traded a pretty nice haul to get Sam Darnold. We're fans of a really dumb organization.

That will be up to Darnold and Brady and Rhule.  Be interesting to hear how this decision came to be.  I still think we are now addressing this from the bottom up.  If we upgraded Teddy, good for now--all we can do at the moment, and a 24 year old kid might be salvageable, when we both know Teddy is not.