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Trey Lance 2nd Pro Day


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20 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

I’m still holding out hope we draft him if he falls.

 

The fact we’ve been in on every QB this offseason from Trubisky to Haskins makes me think Darnold was plan F and we still might draft a QB early.

We couldn't get Trubisky to sign here so we trade a 2nd for Darnold and that's how you know he's plan F? 

What?

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2 hours ago, 45catfan said:

I guess Lance decided to do this because his was so early and the others have decided to one-up each other by adding a second one.  His will be the final one now.  I'm sure he's got some crazy throw drawn up against a non-existent pass rush that everyone went crazy over in the Zach Wilson Pro Day.  Wilson would have been planted in the turf doing all that running around in the backfield and probably would have been picked throwing back against the grain.  Sure it looks impressive when there is ZERO defense.

He may even do non-throwing workouts too.  I think that hurt him by opting out the first time around when the other QBs with later Pro Days decided they would participate.

Wilson has made those kind of throws in games.  Have you even bothered to watch the tape?

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3 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Thats fine but again, lower comp and he played on a dominant team

Clemson can only play the ACC schedule they are given regardless if the rest of the conference sucks.  I tell people (I live in the heart of Clemson country) it's like 10 tune-up games for the Bowl Series run.  Should their players have an asterisks by their credentials too?

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2 hours ago, BrianS said:

If you're using running ability to separate QB's you're doing it wrong.  There are five other guys on offense who should be running with the ball before you get to a QB.  Yes, a QB who can break contain is nice, but I'd rather have a guy who makes the right read and puts the ball in the hands of a DJ Moore / Robby Anderson / CMC.

In the case of Lance vs Fields, if we're really down to a slight difference in running ability, give me the guy who did against better competition.

I was responding to the poster who said theirs nothing as athletes Lance does better than Fields. 
 

Field faced an extremely easy schedule. Biggest gap in talent among the QBs playing in FBS

check for yourself. OSU has more 4 and 5 stars than the entire big 10 COMBINED. Theirs a reason every QB that plays there puts up monster numbers

https://247sports.com/Season/2020-Football/CollegeTeamTalentComposite/?Conference=Big-Ten

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18 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Clemson can only play the ACC schedule they are given regardless if the rest of the conference sucks.  I tell people (I live in the heart of Clemson country) it's like 10 tune-up games for the Bowl Series run.  Should their players have an asterisks by their credentials too?

Total bullshit...Lance never played a Notre Dame defense in his life.  Stop with this stupid crap

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39 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Clemson can only play the ACC schedule they are given regardless if the rest of the conference sucks.  I tell people (I live in the heart of Clemson country) it's like 10 tune-up games for the Bowl Series run.  Should their players have an asterisks by their credentials too?

Five top 25 teams in the final ESPN college football poll. Yeah, the ACC is just trash. LOL!

https://www.espn.com/college-football/rankings

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