Understanding the personnel Moves: The Panther's Wide Zone Blocking Scheme

[Prowler2k18]

7 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

We sure as hell didn't have that under Rivera and Fox.

Fox was famously too damn stubborn to adjust the coverage scheme against Arizona even though we had a corner capable of shadowing Fitzgerald and they didn't have jack sh-t outside of him at the time.

I’m still pissed about that game. Fox and Trgovac looked totally clueless on the sideline. What a waste of a season!

[Prowler2k18]

7 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rivera was stuck in that "left corner / right corner" thing at the time too.

(used to drive me bonkers)

Rivera and Fox were notorious for their stubborn refusal to adjust. The halftime adjustments this current regime made on games last season almost brought me tears of joy!

[PootieNunu]

2 minutes ago, Prowler2k18 said:

Rivera and Fox were notorious for their stubborn refusal to adjust. The halftime adjustments this current regime made on games last season almost brought me tears of joy!

That is one of the main reasons Fox has not had a job since 2017. I suspect MoRon will be close behind him when he flames out in Washington.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

28 minutes ago, Prowler2k18 said:

Rivera and Fox were notorious for their stubborn refusal to adjust. The halftime adjustments this current regime made on games last season almost brought me tears of joy!

While I agree, there was one notable exception for Fox:

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Hoover said the Panthers were shocked by the way the Patriots knew their offense in the first half, and so they made wholesale changes at halftime, and in the second half the Patriots didn’t know what was coming.

“At halftime, we changed our whole offensive game plan, and that’s one of the advantages of having that long intermission,” Hoover said. “How did they know what we were doing? The play in the second half was a lot different. We were able to put a lot more points on the board and I think that’s a part of it.”

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/04/ex-panther-brad-hoover-still-believes-the-patriots-cheated/

[Prowler2k18]

9 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

While I agree, there was one notable exception for Fox:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/04/ex-panther-brad-hoover-still-believes-the-patriots-cheated/

You’re right good sir...thank you. Would’ve been nice to have seen Rivera and co do the same in SB 50 but I still have a feeling that game was about Peyton Manning’s swan song. But I digress

Edited May 21, 2021 by Prowler2k18

[Mr. Scot]

To be fair, the Super Bowl adjustment was probably more Henning than Fox.

[Black&BlueBubba]

Awesome!!!  I was trying to figure what.EJ meant by Brady being his number 1 wife zone Tackle in this class.  
 

Now it makes sense.  

[bythenbrs]

18 minutes ago, Black&BlueBubba said:

... Brady being his number 1 wife zone Tackle in this class.  
 

Now it makes sense.  

Not sure about Brady, but my wife couldn’t tackle if her life depended on it.  Not much upper body strength and no bend at the hips...

[MHS831]

3 hours ago, bythenbrs said:

Not sure about Brady, but my wife couldn’t tackle if her life depended on it.  Not much upper body strength and no bend at the hips...

camp fodder.

Or would that be, "camp mudder?"

Edited May 22, 2021 by MHS831

[Pup McBarky]

19 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Why we went after players we did in free agency and in the draft. 

Excellent post, @MHS831. 

[LinvilleGorge]

11 hours ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

While I agree, there was one notable exception for Fox:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/04/ex-panther-brad-hoover-still-believes-the-patriots-cheated/

Meanwhile, Shula's plan after an abysmal 1st half...

"Men, we're staying the course. We'll change absolutely nothing. They'll never see it coming. They'll never expect such a wildly idiotic approach!"

[Pup McBarky]

Re: Deonte Brown and David Moore being giant, powerful guys who may not be the best fits for a wide zone scheme...

I think Rhule & company not only value positional diversity but scheme diversity as well. Some OL will fit your primary scheme better than others, but they may suffer if the scheme changes. I think both Brown and Moore can be good guards in multiple schemes. Keeping the defense off balance and constantly guessing by running multiple schemes with multiple personnel would be a nice advantage. 

 

Edited May 22, 2021 by Pup McBarky

[GRWatcher]

21 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Secondary used to be stellar back when they had guys like Rod Woodson.

Part of me wonders if that area hasn't fallen off since Tomlin took over, but I haven't looked hard enough at it to say.

I do remember some people thought Tomlin was kind of a misfit for the Steelers since he was primarily a Cover Two guy and they were married to the zone blitz.

Dom Capers brought the zone blitz to Carolina from Pittsburgh. It was a thing of beauty to watch.

20 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'd also add that this would be a good time to have someone comparable to prime Ryan Kalil.

Kalil was one of the best second level blockers I've seen in a long time.

Norwell also made it down field quite often.

 

How is it possible that the Huddle has forgotten the chop blocking the Falcons were famous for?

[Mr. Scot]

10 hours ago, MHS831 said:

camp fodder.

Or would that be, "camp mudder?"

Are we at training camp or Camp Granada?