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What we need to see from Sammy D in OTAs

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2 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:
2 hours ago, Trainwreck said:

2021-2022 season for me will be Sam Darnold vs Justin Fields 

 

Matt Rhule will either be a genius or a dumbass college head coach acting like a NFL head coach. 

I think this will be just for you.

I actually think a lot of people will think like this. If Fields is good, and Darnold is bad, It's going to be hard not to think "we could have had that guy". If Horn becomes a true, lock down corner, it'll definitely lessen the pain. i happen to think that horn will be a shut down corner AND Darnold will be significantly better that he was in NY. Like the article says, "Considering the talent around Darnold, he doesn’t even have to be that great."

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2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

He should look good in OTAs. His issues are in game decisions when he is under pressure, which was like every play behind that Jets line....

To his credit, though, he has made some good decisions while on the run(aka running for his life).

But no one can make good decisions when he's running for his life ON *EVERY* PASSING DOWN.

Hopefully with this O-Line(which will still be eons better than the garbage he played behind) he'll be able to deliver passes from the pocket.

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10 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I do. It should hopefully be obvious that he’s got confidence in his weapons. I care about real games but I can’t imagine he’ll look like Hackenberg did in camps and then suddenly do well in real games. If he’s not looking good in camp that’s a big red flashing warning sign.

I guess i will approach it with hopeful optimism again as i did with Teddy last year yet all the while in the back of my mind doubting it will work out unfortunately. I hope it does but if I had to put money on it I would have to go based off the past seasons in NY and say we may see a little improvement but not enough to be a franchise QB. Damn I hope im wrong though.

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25 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I do. It should hopefully be obvious that he’s got confidence in his weapons. I care about real games but I can’t imagine he’ll look like Hackenberg did in camps and then suddenly do well in real games. If he’s not looking good in camp that’s a big red flashing warning sign.

There won't be any ghosts on the field in practice. We won't know if he's shell shocked until the real bullets start flying.

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55 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

We’ll be like the Browns when they passed on Mahomes and Watson. 

I've been thinking it's more akin to the Jets who got a really good DB in that draft (Jamal Adams) but passed on two franchise QBs.

But what's done is done. Rhule and Fitterer chose Darnold & Horn over Fields. We can only hope it was the right decision.

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4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah that whole, "He's basically a rookie!" narrative was utter nonsense. 

He is a four year NFL starter. Did he lose time to illness and injury? Sure, but that will be four offseasons, training camps, four years of film room, four years of development and training. If he didn't produce after this season, he isn't going to.

I hate building in excuses but a 4th year player should be 25-26 not 23. Its crazy how young he really is.  I believe Joe Burrow is older than Sam.  The cognitive development between 20-25 is substantial. He still has time to "get it".  

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28 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

I hate building in excuses but a 4th year player should be 25-26 not 23. Its crazy how young he really is.  I believe Joe Burrow is older than Sam.  The cognitive development between 20-25 is substantial. He still has time to "get it".  

Yeah, but that doesn't change the bust history. If he is an outlier it won't be his age, it will be because the Jets are that huge of a dumpster fire. 

I have heard the "just 23/24" thing plenty. He isn't the first 20 year old NFL player and he isn't even the youngest player ever drafted. There are more than one of those 19 or 20 year old rookies that didn't bust out their first three years.(Juju is one, as an example)

Like I said, after this season, it's boom or bust. Zero excuses left.

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57 minutes ago, Trainwreck said:

That’s what people like you said too about Mahomes and Watson when KC and Hou traded up for them. 

You're not making any sense whatsoever.

Give it a rest.

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