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How much of the Jets performance was really on Darnold?


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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Jets flat out sucked. We'll find out how much of it was on Darnold this season when he takes the field for us surrounded by better weapons with a better OC calling the shots.

I was surprised that they even sucked at punting.

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6 minutes ago, BigTruth said:

The problem with the Jets involves a  conspiracy theory.  The New York Jets hired a guy by the name of Mike Macagnan.  Mike Macagnan should  have never had the  job and the stories  you hear now makes  it clear he was a "different" kind of guy.  How did he get the job- Charley Casserly was hired by the Jets to hire Mike Macagnan.  Yes this is bizarre and there is no rationale explanation. Macagnan couldn't draft so the team simply had no talent.  That  said- Darnold  was part of the problem- he shouldn't have been drafted at 3- Allan and Jackson should have been rated higher and were better  options.  Realistically- look at the year's  since- QBs like Darnold are not drafted that highly anymore.

Funny that some projections suggest that Darnold would have been the second QB drafted if he came out this year. That is ahead of Wilson who replaced him. Darnold was drafted at 21 and was the youngest QB drafted in 2018 and the youngest QB starter for the Jets. He started 1 year in high school and 2 at USC so those saying he really doesn't have much starting experience and lots of upside are on solid ground.

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13 minutes ago, BigTruth said:

The problem with the Jets involves a  conspiracy theory.  The New York Jets hired a guy by the name of Mike Macagnan.  Mike Macagnan should  have never had the  job and the stories  you hear now makes  it clear he was a "different" kind of guy.  How did he get the job- Charley Casserly was hired by the Jets to hire Mike Macagnan.  Yes this is bizarre and there is no rationale explanation. Macagnan couldn't draft so the team simply had no talent.  That  said- Darnold  was part of the problem- he shouldn't have been drafted at 3- Allan and Jackson should have been rated higher and were better  options.  Realistically- look at the year's  since- QBs like Darnold are not drafted that highly anymore.

It’s hard to find another Teddy.

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17 minutes ago, BigTruth said:

The problem with the Jets involves a  conspiracy theory.  The New York Jets hired a guy by the name of Mike Macagnan.  Mike Macagnan should  have never had the  job and the stories  you hear now makes  it clear he was a "different" kind of guy.  How did he get the job- Charley Casserly was hired by the Jets to hire Mike Macagnan.  Yes this is bizarre and there is no rationale explanation. Macagnan couldn't draft so the team simply had no talent.  That  said- Darnold  was part of the problem- he shouldn't have been drafted at 3- Allan and Jackson should have been rated higher and were better  options.  Realistically- look at the year's  since- QBs like Darnold are not drafted that highly anymore.

Still mad Darnold took Teddy's job?

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5 minutes ago, KSpan said:

Somewhere between a little bit of the suckage and most of the suckage. Glad he's in Carolina but dude has a whole lot of work to do.

The more I look up what happened, its impossiple to stay MOST of the suckage.  Darnold didn't punt, kick-off, return kick-offs or play defense.

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28 minutes ago, SBBlue said:


The Jets were 2-11 last season, getting blown out in 7 games.  I was wondering how much of the blame is on Darnold... so I did a little stat digging.  

The 2020 Jets offensive line struggled.
⦁     Darnold was pressured on 42.1% of his dropbacks, which was the most in the NFL.
⦁    The Jet Oline allowed pressure in 2.5 seconds or less on 28% of their dropbacks — the worst rate in the NFL.
⦁    The Jets averaged just 1.1 yards per carry before contact per rushing attempt in 2020 (30th). 
⦁    For what its worth, PFF Offensive line rank:29 
⦁    The line ranked near the bottom of the league in 2018 and 2019 as well. In fact, at one point in 2018, the Jets, literally, had difficulty snapping the ball.  They had to call Ryan Kalil out of retirement in 2019 for $8.4 million to play seven games. 
    
The 2020 Jets Receivers struggled.
⦁    Darnold experienced the 10th highest dropped pass rate in the league.
⦁    The Jets had 386 receiving yards from RBs (30th). Adam Gase didn't care to pass to RBs, as the Jets ranked 27th with 73 targets to RBs. 

⦁    They didn't block well either.  The Jets had a 54.8 run blocking grade from WRs and TEs (25th)
⦁    PFF ranked the Jets wide receiver group 31st

The 2020 Jets Running Backs struggled
⦁    Le’Veon Bel was a disappointment in New York. He rushed for 863 yards and three touchdowns in 17 games before being released midseason in 2020.  Bell averaged 3.2 yards per carry -- the worst in Jets franchise history (>200 attempts)  He did score four touchdowns though.

⦁    Overall, the running attack was never good as the Jets averaged 94 yards rushing per game in three seasons with Darnold.

The Jets 2020 Special Teams struggled.
⦁    Averaged 37.2 net yards per punt (30th) (I thought they would at least be good at punts, but no.)
⦁    Kickoff Return  Avg 19.78 yard (28th)
⦁    Kickoff Coverage Avg Return yards 24.81 (25th)

The Jets 2020 Defense struggled.
⦁    94 pressures from edge rushers (29th)
⦁    8.1 yards per target allowed by LBs (26th)
⦁    The Jets allowed the most receiving yards to tight ends (1,105) and the eighth-most receiving yards to running backs (673). 
⦁    Pass Defense allowed 275.6 Yards a game (28th)
⦁    3rd Down Conversion Rank 24th 
⦁    PFF  Secondary Rank  25th 

The Jets coaching struggled.
⦁    In Miami, Gase went 23-25 and his offense averaged 19.8 points per game 
⦁    In 2020, Gase's Jets offense  averaged 15.2 points a game  (32nd).

Fantastic research and post. Really puts things in perspective. 

Sam isn't immune from blame, but he was really put in an epically hellish situation...a true clusterfug. He never had a chance to succeed.

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28 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Jets flat out sucked. We'll find out how much of it was on Darnold this season when he takes the field for us surrounded by better weapons with a better OC calling the shots.

I still say Brady has is work cut out for him. Fix Darnald and he probably will get a HC job next year as a QB guru.

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