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Pro Football Network ranks the offensive lines


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9 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Didn’t address the OL? Lost all credibility right there. We drafted a couple OL, both of whom have a lot of potential

yeah, but in fairness....you can't really call a 6th rounder investing in the OL.   Doesn't mean it can't work out.  But if you have a weak OL no one is going to give you a thumbs up when half your investment was in round 6. 

I think playcalling and Sam's ability to execute will ultimately determine how bad the OL is.  I think the majority of OLs are in the same tier.  Subpar.  QBs and playcalling have a lot to do with how the cluster of OLs ultimately gets viewed. 

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Any addition is investing on the oline. 

You don't get to sit back and qualify it because it was a 6th round pick. 

Same as the free agents they brought in. They have scoured tape, and they feel these guys can help us.  

 

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26 minutes ago, pantherclaw said:

Any addition is investing on the oline. 

You don't get to sit back and qualify it because it was a 6th round pick. 

Same as the free agents they brought in. They have scoured tape, and they feel these guys can help us.  

 

C’mon, you can’t be serious. I already replied earlier about this but the Saints spending 3 first round picks and 1 2nd on their OL in 6 drafts is investing in your OL. That’s different than a 6th rounder. It’s rare that a 6th rounder ever starts so that’s a flyer not an investment. A 6th isn’t much above filling out the roster with UDFAs and camp bodies. Sometimes you strike gold with a Norwell but again not a true investment.

The FAs we brought in are, to be frank, cast offs and underachievers. We didn’t go out and get Orlando Brown.

Sure, we may get lucky and it works out, but we certainly aren’t investing real draft capital or real FA money. We are taking flyers and bargain shopping. We have invested in 2 day two picks in 4 drafts and one of those had huge red flags and has been a terrible pick instead of that 2nd rounder for NO above that has been fantastic for them.

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2 hours ago, KatsAzz said:

I fully agree and this 2021 season will be another year the OL coaches will have to excel if we are to have a halfway decent OL.

I meant more that Teddy getting rid of the ball quickly and Brady's offense made that line look a lot better than they were. The PBWR stats kind of alluded to that.

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

yeah, but in fairness....you can't really call a 6th rounder investing in the OL.   Doesn't mean it can't work out.  But if you have a weak OL no one is going to give you a thumbs up when half your investment was in round 6. 

I think playcalling and Sam's ability to execute will ultimately determine how bad the OL is.  I think the majority of OLs are in the same tier.  Subpar.  QBs and playcalling have a lot to do with how the cluster of OLs ultimately gets viewed. 

There’s a difference between “didn’t invest” and “didn’t invest enough in my opinion”. What they said tells you they don’t even know that we drafted two OL, which undermines anything else they said if they don’t even know that. 

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44 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

There’s a difference between “didn’t invest” and “didn’t invest enough in my opinion”. What they said tells you they don’t even know that we drafted two OL, which undermines anything else they said if they don’t even know that. 

Investing <> filling out the roster. 5 of the 22 starters are OL. Considering that OL has the most upgradeable spots even after FA, taking 2 of 11 draft picks at OL isn’t investing, it’s making sure you have 9 OL for the 53. Taking 7 of 7 2020 picks on D was investing in the D. There’s a difference between investing and filling out the roster/taking flyers late in the draft.

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46 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I mean, we did. He may or may not play LT for us, but it’s indisputable we drafted a LT…

Agree with this even if we didn’t think he’d start. Christensen played LT, simple as that.

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13 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Investing <> filling out the roster. 5 of the 22 starters are OL. Considering that OL has the most upgradeable spots even after FA, taking 2 of 11 draft picks at OL isn’t investing, it’s making sure you have 9 OL for the 53. Taking 7 of 7 2020 picks on D was investing in the D. There’s a difference between investing and filling out the roster/taking flyers late in the draft.

That's the thing. If you looked at our FA signings and draft under the assumption that we had 5 quality starters on the roster already, the narrative would be completely different. We'd be talking about what a great job we did filling out the depth on our OL unit.

That was honestly the way I felt about all our OL moves. They acted as if we just needed to bolster depth. As it stands, we have two NFL starters and a pile of journeymen and depth pieces.

I still can't wrap my head around the thought process.

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1 hour ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I mean, we did. He may or may not play LT for us, but it’s indisputable we drafted a LT…

Thats semantics and you know it.  How about this, we didnt draft a potential NFL LT.  Whereas over in LA the Chargers picked Slater and already has given him the LT position.  Now I like Horn especially if he has shades of Ramesy but at some motherfuging point we are going to have to use a high draft pick to select a LT.  Look at the playoff teams look at the super bowl teams from the past half dozen years and you will see a theme. 

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1 hour ago, JawnyBlaze said:

I mean, we did. He may or may not play LT for us, but it’s indisputable we drafted a LT…

We drafted someone that might can compete to play OG this year in the 3rd round and then drafted another G in the 6th round. 

I mean, I don't dislike either pick.  I actually like the 6th round kid probably more than most.  I just don't see how we can get upset that those on the outside view it as us not doing much.....especially given how we and the outside have long viewed the OL.  And we will have a struggling QB that has shown little ability to mask OL deficiencies.   It is an odd strategy. 

 

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52 minutes ago, stbugs said:

Agree with this even if we didn’t think he’d start. Christensen played LT, simple as that.

Armanti Edwards played QB.  Did we draft a WR or a QB? 

Reality is we drafted a WR.   At this point, all indications are we drafted someone to come in and play OG.  

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I honestly don’t understand how this years line is perceived as worse compared to last years. Bitcoin boy Okung played like 2 games and walked off with his money, are we really missing Chris Reed?? The depth on this line is awesome, this is by no means a special oline but I honestly would not be suprised to finish the end of the year around the 15-20th range.

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