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Panthers Offensive Line Grades from PFF

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OldhamA Grand Master

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6 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

For those of you surprised by Matt’s grade you need to remember PFF o-line grades are based on both passing and rushing snaps.

Go look at Paradis run grade vs pass grade.

Also fans tend to grade offensive lineman based off of the occasional terrible play but occasionally that doesn’t tell you the full picture.

Player A can give up 2 pressures, 1 sack, no penalties, and block great in the run game.

Player B can give up 5 pressures, 0 sacks, 2 penalties and have several missed blocks in the run game.

A lot of  fans will think player A played worse because all they notice or remember is the one sack.

 

 

Fans notice the OL that give up splash plays. You just want consistently from OLmen. 

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1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

For those of you surprised by Matt’s grade you need to remember PFF o-line grades are based on both passing and rushing snaps.

Go look at Paradis run grade vs pass grade.

Also fans tend to grade offensive lineman based off of the occasional terrible play but occasionally that doesn’t tell you the full picture.

Player A can give up 2 pressures, 1 sack, no penalties, and block great in the run game.

Player B can give up 5 pressures, 0 sacks, 2 penalties and have several missed blocks in the run game.

A lot of  fans will think player A played worse because all they notice or remember is the one sack.

 

 

people should also consider that PFF grades are trash

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1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

For those of you surprised by Matt’s grade you need to remember PFF o-line grades are based on both passing and rushing snaps.

Go look at Paradis run grade vs pass grade.

Also fans tend to grade offensive lineman based off of the occasional terrible play but occasionally that doesn’t tell you the full picture.

Player A can give up 2 pressures, 1 sack, no penalties, and block great in the run game.

Player B can give up 5 pressures, 0 sacks, 2 penalties and have several missed blocks in the run game.

A lot of  fans will think player A played worse because all they notice or remember is the one sack.

 

 

Stop with the data-driven analysis.  You will confuse some people.

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4 hours ago, 45catfan said:

The Saints DL is looking at this an licking their chops.  Oh, and who didn't see this hot mess coming?  Most of us did, but the somehow caching staff didn't???

The coaching staff was/is hoping to scheme their way out of this issue. It seems that their idea is to utilize a short and quick passing attack with CMC spoiling the pass to take the pressure of of the O-Line. It may work with average to below average teams, but good teams will not be as susceptible.

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6 hours ago, bythenbrs said:

Stop with the data-driven analysis.  You will confuse some people.

It's not "data-driven analysis." Nerds want to believe it because they like the idea of playing sports on spreadsheets, but it isn't analysis of data. All it is is a bunch of keyboard warriors who never played football giving "grades" to football players without knowing the play call or the player responsibilities.

PFF has valuable tracking stats. These grades are worthless. 

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