Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

They are really pushing the Diggs shutdown Moore narrative


GoobyPls
 Share

Recommended Posts

23 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Diggs had a great day and he's having a heck of a season. Can't take that away from him.

Once he left the field, we marched at will. That's something Dallas should be looking at this week. The rest of their coverage is pretty suspect.

26-39, 66% completions, 301 yds, 2 TD, 2 INT for Darnold. Remove the Diggs stats from above: 24-32, 75%, 267, 2 TD and that's while under massive pressure. One guy did their heavy lifting.

 

well they entered 31st against the pass.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

47 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Are you implying that Sam is like Jake?

Playing style? Not really. Jake after 3 years was tedious and obviously an area we could improve in by attempting to upgrade, which we didn't because friendships and bad roster management. It was a point in Panthers history where we made the playoffs some but were not much of a legit threat after the first year, culminating is a very fun 2009 playoff game in Arizona. Very mediocre product. This team feels that way to me now, limited with some fun and great talents in spots. So the 2006 Jake comparison. 

 If they want to support Darnold, that line has to improve or they need to change it up. With who they brought in this offseason they are failing currently at that. 

  • Poo 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

This has everything to do with Darnold and nothing to do with Moore.

Darnold needs to stop forcing the ball, and go through his progressions. 

Yeah. Not sure what he was looking at with the 1st INT but that was bad.

The 2nd one was just a good play by Diggs.

Edited by glenwo2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, glenwo2 said:

Yeah. Not sure what he was looking at with the 1st INT but that was bad.

The 2nd one was just a good play by Diggs.

That first INT, a couple things.

They ran that play a series or two earlier, but with DJ running the router instead of Robby.  DJ was open on the play, but Sam had a ton of pressure and overthrew it a bit. 

I'll bet that when they talked about it they told Sam "This was open and we're going to go to it again".  I say that because Sam largely just locked on to the receiver.  He glanced once at the flat, but there was definitely no progression read there.

It's a shame too, because if he had followed the progression instead, DJ was WIDE (*@ OPEN deep.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

13 hours ago, BrianS said:

That first INT, a couple things.

They ran that play a series or two earlier, but with DJ running the router instead of Robby.  DJ was open on the play, but Sam had a ton of pressure and overthrew it a bit. 

I'll bet that when they talked about it they told Sam "This was open and we're going to go to it again".  I say that because Sam largely just locked on to the receiver.  He glanced once at the flat, but there was definitely no progression read there.

It's a shame too, because if he had followed the progression instead, DJ was WIDE (*@ OPEN deep.

Damn.   I think that was a case of Sam listening to his coach a bit too much, if that makes any sense.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

9 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

How'd they leave?

Not much better because of the decision by Quinn to go Prevent and take Diggs out of the game. 🤷‍♂️

I mean those two TD drives basically negated the two INTs by Sam.  

Edited by glenwo2
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/4/2021 at 10:28 AM, hepcat said:

There was a top 25 WR list on nfl.com this offseason that completely left DJ off the list. The NFL doesn't really care about the Panthers or their players.

This is because we no longer have a flashy star like Cam Newton that draws media attention and we are a smaller media market team.  The only smaller market team that the NFL cares about is Green Bay, because they have a strong national following based in large part on having Rogers and then Favre before that. 

Think about this for a moment:

Since 1992 the year before the NFL even awarded Carolina a franchise, the Green Bay Packers have for all intents and purposes had 2 quarterbacks, both HOF caliber. If Rogers plays one more year in GB next year at a high level, that is a single franchise with 30 uninterrupted years of top flight play at the game's most crucial position. Man, that must be nice.

And yet....despite having that huge advantage and what is generally regarded as at worst competent coaching and FO management, the Packers have still only won 2 Super Bowls in all that time, one by each qb. Just shows how hard it is to win a Super Bowl in the NFL. Especially when you don't cheat. 

*cough*

Patriots

*cough*

Edited by 1of10Charnatives
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

This is because we no longer have a flashy star like Cam Newton that draws media attention and we are a smaller media market team.  The only smaller market team that the NFL cares about is Green Bay, because they have a strong national following based in large part on having Rogers and then Favre before that. 

Think about this for a moment:

Since 1992 the year before the NFL even awarded Carolina a franchise, the Green Bay Packers have for all intents and purposes had 2 quarterbacks, both HOF caliber. If Rogers plays one more year in GB next year at a high level, that is a single franchise with 30 uninterrupted years of top flight play at the game's most crucial position. Man, that must be nice.

And yet....despite having that huge advantage and what is generally regarded as at worst competent coaching and FO management, the Packers have still only won 2 Super Bowls in all that time, one by each qb. Just shows how hard it is to win a Super Bowl in the NFL. Especially when you don't cheat. 

*cough*

Patriots

*cough*

I'm going to chalk this entire post up as utter bullshit because the Huddle GMs have time and time again told us that a franchise QB is the only thing that a team needs to compete for a championship! 😮

Hot Shots Idiot GIF

 

/s

Link to comment
Share on other sites

On 10/4/2021 at 12:00 PM, Khyber53 said:

Diggs had a great day and he's having a heck of a season. Can't take that away from him.

Once he left the field, we marched at will. That's something Dallas should be looking at this week. The rest of their coverage is pretty suspect.

26-39, 66% completions, 301 yds, 2 TD, 2 INT for Darnold. Remove the Diggs stats from above: 24-32, 75%, 267, 2 TD and that's while under massive pressure. One guy did their heavy lifting.

 

It was also garbage time to the cowboys and they went prevent. 
 

I agree he’s had an outstanding season so far. But DJ was the least of our worries, really hard to get a pass to him when you have a defensive linemen in your face in 1.5 seconds. 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

11 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

It was also garbage time to the cowboys and they went prevent. 
 

I agree he’s had an outstanding season so far. But DJ was the least of our worries, really hard to get a pass to him when you have a defensive linemen in your face in 1.5 seconds. 

I don't disagree with you one bit on the problems Sam and DJ had resulting from our O-line being well overmatched. I was just giving the Devil his due in the Diggs efforts that night.

We move on and Diggs is now someone else's headache until we see them in the playoffs.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • TAMU had such a weird draft. Usually you'd be bragging your ass off about three DL drafted in the top two rounds except that the narrative around all three was about how badly they were misused by TAMU. LOL
    • Many Panthers fans are already excited about second-round selection Nic Scourton for a variety of reasons including but not limited to: the Panthers needed to recharge the position group, Scourton had a late first-round grade according to many (including the Panthers), and he fit this season's modus operandi of stopping the run now and forever. However, Scourton was seen early on as one of the top-3 EDGE guys in this class but fell due to not having quite the season at Texas A&M as he did prior at Purdue (his sophomore season). It's been revealed since then a few different things that speak to that dip in production... Texas A&M, for one, requires each player on their line to be able to hold two gaps. This also explains why we saw low production across the board from the other two TA&M prospects but were still being heavily touted. Scourton was also said to have bulked up to 280lbs in order to fulfill this role and noticeably suffered from it. He's expected to play this season with Carolina at 255 - 260 which is very different from most situations. In most situations, teams are wanting players to gain 15 - 30. Since Scourton is going to be playing at his Purdue weight, I thought it would make sense to dive more into that tape. Y'all... we might have gotten something special... Let's take a quick peek at the stats before we start drooling over some highlights. First, a summary of the last two seasons for Scourton: Second, the game splits: The first thing that pops up for me is how Scourton's sack numbers were cut in half his senior year. We've already pointed out issues with scheme that impacted the TA&M linemen from racking up numbers, but seeing the game splits it's clear that Scourton didn't exactly feast on inferior competition while at Purdue. He had two two-sack games (vs. Michigan (2023 - 2024 champs), Indiana) and a 10-tackle game (vs. Nebraska). I also see the 2024 games where he went up against two top-10 tackles (Will Campbell from LSU + Armand Membou from Missouri) that I watched leading up to the draft.  For those who just want a summary: Scourton looked elite at Purdue and is going to be rotating in often during his rookie campaign. I originally had him penciled in as the second-string, strong-side edge defender behind Clowney but I wouldn't be surprised to see the team have him and Pat Jones II moving around when they rotate in in order to find where Nic looks best. Here's a highlight reel to replace that Cialias you lost in your recliner tonight:   For those that want a little more: Below I'll be linking the linking the five games I've mentioned above. If you plan to watch all of them, I highly recommend going in the order listed as that will allow you to see him vs. Campbell and then Membou while dealing with the aforementioned things he dealt with at Texas A&M before seeing him look unstoppable in 2023 when he was allowed to play both at a comfortable weight and in a scheme that didn't require him two cover two gaps nearly every play. vs. Will Campbell (2024) vs. Armand Membou (2024) vs. Nebraska (2023) vs. Michigan (2023)   vs. Indiana (2023)  
    • Yea, i honestly think he had almost as much say as Dan.  One of the main reasons I think that is Eager has said before he was ever with the Panthers, that you trade away picks for a qb and for any other position you do pick swaps, and that's exactly what we did.
×
×
  • Create New...