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Just now, rippadonn said:

I think I know the kind of guy Jon Gruden is and I think he'd love to coach Cam and Coach with this defense in the NFCS. THAT would be entertaining. Gruden won a SB with Tampa. 

That's trying to "win".

Yeah...Gruden's not coming here. Nor should he.

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4 hours ago, ladypanther said:

When you take a QB who has been in a bad situation with a shitty Oline...and put him on a new team with the very same issues, the blame is not on Sam.

Tepper needs to fix this now...waiting another year is insane.

Any QB would be traumatized playing behind these terrible OLs.  These are very large men trying to knock you into next week.  It gets your attention 

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3 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Cam doesn’t play scared.

That’s not to say he’s played WELL behind this OL, but he sure as hell don’t play SCARED.  Dude has always been a warrior playing behind the crap OL’s this organization has constantly trotted out in front of fun him and he has paid for it in the currency of blood, injuries, and concussions.

Truly remarkable that Cam didn't succomb to the post-snap happy feet dance like Carr and Darnold. 

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14 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Any QB would be traumatized playing behind these terrible OLs.  These are very large men trying to knock you into next week.  It gets your attention 

Cam spent most of his career behind bad OLs.    He doesn’t panic. 

It’s like being a punt returner.  You either have ice in your veins or you don’t.  Sam is a panic guy.  Always has been. 
 

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

In the end? Yeah, I think it matters if your QB plays scared or not.  Because those situations will always exist.  With improved OL play….it can collapse quickly.   

No point having a panicking and turnover prone QB.  Fix the OL.  Sam still is Sam. 

Acting like Cam never panics is disingenuous. 

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