What is Joe Burrow’s superior trait to Kenny Pickett?

[FuFuLamePoo]

I’ve just started watching film, but reading scouting reports the information makes these two seem very similar. Late-bloomers, not elite arm strength but surgical precision and accuracy with just enough athleticism to make plays out of the pocket. I’m just wondering what really separates them? Like, why couldn’t Pickett be a similar player if he lands in a good situation?

[ForJimmy]

4 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

I’ve just started watching film, but reading scouting reports the information makes these two seem very similar. Late-bloomers, not elite arm strength but surgical precision and accuracy with just enough athleticism to make plays out of the pocket. I’m just wondering what really separates them? Like, why couldn’t Pickett be a similar player if he lands in a good situation?

Burrow had better stats/wins, but a much more talented roster. Then there is hand size, but that is overblown. The same people that complain about Rhule talking about arm length for a LT will talk about hand size for a QB. 

[BrianS]

I've actually seen a couple analysts recently start to draw that comparison.  I haven't seen enough to convince me yet, and I hate that there is a Rhule connection, but I'm open to see more.  I don't hate the kid . . . he might be the real deal.

But I DO hate the idea of this staff being charged with his development.

[FuFuLamePoo]

7 minutes ago, BrianS said:

I've actually seen a couple analysts recently start to draw that comparison.  I haven't seen enough to convince me yet, and I hate that there is a Rhule connection, but I'm open to see more.  I don't hate the kid . . . he might be the real deal.

But I DO hate the idea of this staff being charged with his development.

Preach, I could have been sold slightly if you got Pep here but that’s not going to happen. I also firmly believe if you commit to a guy like that you have to build in a similar fashion, aka the next draft your first pick better be WR or OL

[unicar15]

Build an OL and I don’t have a problem taking a swing on Pickett. But they better not take Pickett and think they’re gonna protect him with 3rd-4th rounders and bargain bin FA. 
 

As far as the difference. The competition in college was a major one. Pitt lost to Western Michigan and Miami. They had basically two good wins. Clemson and Tennessee. Wake’s defense was absolute garbage this year. I’m not impressed with that win. Then the BIGGEST disappointment to me was that he didn’t even play against Michigan St. If he had been able to go out there and torch a big10 defense then I think he could have made a case to go #2 overall to the Lions (or whoever traded for him). 

Edited January 16, 2022 by unicar15

[Pantha-kun]

Pickett is old as hell he'll be 24 before he even takes a snap in the NFL o.O

[kungfoodude]

[Pantha-kun]

i hope somehow they dont do ANYTHING at QB . Draft o line men. Get Rhule out of here next year. And then get a new staff that picks a top QB in 2023 that goes into a good OLINE situation. 

[LinvilleGorge]

What makes Burrow special is that he can throw the ball the same no matter what. Clean pocket with room to step up. Feet not set. Running for his life throwing across his body. The ball comes out the same no matter what. That's special. Kenny Pickett doesn't have that.

[AU-panther]

This is the problem with QB evaluation, people keep looking for tangible traits, its not that easy.

Alot of guys can make a throw but can the QB see the throws.  3rd and 9 and 1st read is covered, why does Brady throw it where he does whereas a bad QB tries a different throw.  

Different guys definitely have more tools but the processing is the biggest ability.

 

 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

This is the problem with QB evaluation, people keep looking for tangible traits, its not that easy.

Alot of guys can make a throw but can the QB see the throws.  3rd and 9 and 1st read is covered, why does Brady throw it where he does whereas a bad QB tries a different throw.  

Different guys definitely have more tools but the processing is the biggest ability.

 

 

Yep. You're looking for a QB, not just a thrower of the football. There probably a LOT of third rate baseball pitchers who can throw a better ball than most QBs but they aren't QBs.

[Davidson Deac II]

5 hours ago, Pantha-kun said:

Pickett is old as hell he'll be 24 before he even takes a snap in the NFL o.O

I have seen this mentioned several times, and I wonder why it even matters.  

[ForJimmy]

5 hours ago, Pantha-kun said:

Pickett is old as hell he'll be 24 before he even takes a snap in the NFL o.O

I think Burrow was older too.

[Pazhoosier89]

2 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I have seen this mentioned several times, and I wonder why it even matters.  

It matters in the NBA. In the NFL not so much with the shelf life of players being much shorter. Burrow was an older guy as well.