Person: Abandon Ship?

[Icege]

Getting through the upcoming 2022 - 2023 NFL cycle is going to be absolutely brutal as a Panthers fan.

Unfortunately, as much as some of us might want to be optimistic for the 2023 - 2024 season, it's hard to have faith that we're going to get the right people in place. We know that we have an owner that is going to pay, but will he pick the right people to pay?

[Mr. Scot]

24 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

I think that was reported/speculated when the head scratching was going on about why Hurney was still around.  I doubt we'll ever know.  That sort of stipulation is probably not as unusual as people would think.

The question I have if it is true is why fire Rivera before Hurney, even if Rivera did not have such a stipulation?  Tepper did recognize that the organization was a mess, and if you were saddled with the GM for two years and have questions about whether he was part of the reason for the mess or just a victim of it, why let him have a say in who the coach is until you figure that out?

The reason for publication was to let Rivera get a leg up on searching for another HC job, but I'd probably have held onto him for another year and unload them both, assuming Rivera was not going to pull a rabbit out of his hat.  

Both had to go, and until the triggers on both barrels could pulled, I miss the point of pulling one and letting the other poison the new coach.

Then again, I don't own an NFL team so I guess the question is moot. 

I can't say I buy into the idea too much.

Tepper obviously trusted Marty enough to let him run the head coaching search.

(the one which hilariously picked a candidate who later shoved Marty out the door)

[Sgt Schultz]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can't say I buy into the idea too much.

Tepper obviously trusted Marty enough to let him run the head coaching search.

(the one which hilariously picked a candidate who later shoved Marty out the door)

Where, there was one benefit to hiring Rhule then....even if it was immediate and subsequently overrun by liabilities.

[Mr. Scot]

13 minutes ago, Sgt Schultz said:

Where, there was one benefit to hiring Rhule then....even if it was immediate and subsequently overrun by liabilities.

I think the one good thing that will come from Rhule is that under his watch, we dumped Marty Hurney for Scott Fitterer and Dan Morgan.

That's a net positive.

Now, if Fitterer where to turn around and do the same thing to Matt Rhulerhule, the circle would be complete.

Edited February 9, 2022 by Mr. Scot

[Billy Love]

[BurnNChinn]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I think the one good thing that will come from Rhule is that under his watch, we dumped Marty Hurney for Scott Fitterer and Dan Morgan.

That's a net positive.

I’m still skeptical on Fitterer, we don’t really know what his doing because sounds like Rhule runs it all.

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, BudFox said:

Tepper knows he got screwed and is pissed.  His vengeance is to let Rhule dig his own hole so deep he never gets out... like it puts the lotion in the basket deep...

Dude, he doesn't care.

[Jon Snow]

10 hours ago, BrianS said:

In light of all the reports, truth is we don't know a thing about Fitts.  Rhule has complete and total control.  Fitts is only doing what Rhule tells him to do.  I'm not sure it's really fair to judge him positively or negatively until he's allowed to do the things a GM is typically allowed to do.

We know he was hand picked by Rhule to be the GM.  That is not debatable. 

[Basbear]

So much for the loyalties form hiring all those Baylor/Temple bros for their first NFL check. Rewarded by 2 of them going to the same jobs else where........Learn anything Rhule????????

[TheSpecialJuan]

11 hours ago, Ja Rhule said:

At this point Rhule is just a raccoon.  Digging thru trash, looking for his coaching staff.

[mrcompletely11]

6 hours ago, BurnNChinn said:

I’m still skeptical on Fitterer, we don’t really know what his doing because sounds like Rhule runs it all.

His trade back strategy in the draft was all him and it fuging sucked, negotiating the deal for Darnold was all him and it fuging sucked, extending Robbie was all him and it fuging sucked.......I could go on but you get the point.  But yeah I dont think Fitt is long for this job making crazy ass moves like that

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

His trade back strategy in the draft was all him and it fuging sucked, negotiating the deal for Darnold was all him and it fuging sucked, extending Robbie was all him and it fuging sucked.......I could go on but you get the point.  But yeah I dont think Fitt is long for this job making crazy ass moves like that

Trade back is Fitterer.

The decision to go after Darnold started with Rhule and Phil Snow.

And Robby Anderson is pretty obviously all Rhule.

[mrcompletely11]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Trade back is Fitterer.

The decision to go after Darnold started with Rhule and Phil Snow.

And Robby Anderson is pretty obviously all Rhule.

Do you think rhule negotiated the trade terms?  Hell no that’s all fit.  Also I am 100% sure it was fit that did the extension 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Do you think rhule negotiated the trade terms?  Hell no that’s all fit.  Also I am 100% sure it was fit that did the extension 

You think Fitterer just chose on his own to extend one of Rhule's Temple guys over DJ Moore?

Yeah, sure

Edited February 10, 2022 by Mr. Scot