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Watson Watch Day 4 - The Finale


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2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Why in the fug would they do that?

 

1 minute ago, BurnNChinn said:

Why y’all think Raiders would trade Carr lol, then they don’t have a qb?

Ive broken this about 3x now between last nights thread and today's... This will probably be the last time. 

Raiders have been quietly shopping Derek Carr for 3 weeks now. The Colts, Brown and Seahawks are said to be interested. The belife is that McDaniels wants to trade Carr because he is an easy value right now, for the following reasons:

1. Last year of his deal
2. He is going to be expensive this offseason due to his is current contract and elevated market
3. McDaniels wants to hand pick his QB

You can simply type in "Derek Carr Trade McDaniels" on google you will see articles sharing the same thing, and if you venture to the raiders reddit this has been an active topic.

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guy's. the smart move if we miss out on DW is to roll with Sam for 2022 use our resources on solidifying the OL so that when we do see an available QB we have a solid system in place for that QB to be successful in. Not a popular option, but it's the right way to build the team.

P.S. first step has got be be fire Rhule and get a competent HC in place to orchestrate the plan. 

 

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Just now, Alemanders said:

Is there an actual time that dw has to make a choice

 This poo is getting old

nope. there's no "deadline"

lot of twitter noise though

This could drag on into the summer for all we know. I think everyone involved wants it to be done ASAP though.

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1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Both are better than Darnold who has never even had a winning season. I don't love those choices but I'd take Baker on a rookie contract for a 1 season tryout over Darnold again.

Baker went through 4 different OCs in 4 years... he was never setup for success by that franchise. Browns are a poorly run franchise. Baker with a fair shake might actually be an optimal QB in this league. He took that team to the playoffs for the first time in over a decade, and helped them to their first playoff win in oer 25 years...

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Just now, TheCasillas said:

Baker went through 4 different OCs in 4 years... he was never setup for success by that franchise. Browns are a poorly run franchise. Baker with a fair shake might actually be an optimal QB in this league. He took that team to the playoffs for the first time in over a decade, and helped them to their first playoff win in oer 25 years...

Well he'll be going on 5 and 6 here, so nothing changes for him.

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