Carolina quietly cleared more cap with RA

[Actionman0z]

Saw a report that Panthers cleared around 5 more mil from Robby Anderson’s salary. Can anyone confirm that, and how much cap space we have? 
 

I wonder why? 

[SgtJoo]

 

[Smithers]

Yeah - we are about to make some big signings the next 24-48 hours.  We now know we have the cap space - time to ensure the other 21 starters are as good as they can be while we work to address the QB situation.  

C, LOG, MLB, RDE, and DT still need to be upgraded.  

[Toomers]

  Rhule’s squeezing every ounce of blood out of this rock to try and save his job. No trade possible now with RA. 

[Soul Rebel]

Any capologists out there know how much dead money we’ve created for future years this off-season in restructures? 
 

Seems like we are real good at kicking the can down the road latelly….rather than taking the lumps and wiping the slate clean. 

[Actionman0z]

Just now, Soul Rebel said:

Any capologists out there know how much dead money we’ve created for future years this off-season in restructures? 
 

Seems like we are real good at kicking the can down the road latelly….rather than taking the lumps and wiping the slate clean. 

1.1% of the Saints, so we are fuged. Jk

[LinvilleGorge]

I'm glad to see that even after moving on from Hurney we're still kicking the can down the road on players who should simply be cut.

[Actionman0z]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm glad to see that even after moving on from Hurney we're still kicking the can down the road on players who should simply be cut.

New Trend. The cap is just a loose guideline. Deadlines for roster bonuses are also, rather soft. 

[Smittymoose]

6 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

Any capologists out there know how much dead money we’ve created for future years this off-season in restructures? 
 

Seems like we are real good at kicking the can down the road latelly….rather than taking the lumps and wiping the slate clean. 

"taking the lumps and wiping the slate clean" is what dumb teams do.

You can kick the can down the road infinitely if you have an intelligent front office. 

Edited March 18, 2022 by Smittymoose

[Smittymoose]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm glad to see that even after moving on from Hurney we're still kicking the can down the road on players who should simply be cut.

They were going to cut a guy in Anderson who had $8M in guaranteed salary this year? lol

Trade or restructure were the only options. 

[SteveSmithTD89]

7 minutes ago, Soul Rebel said:

Any capologists out there know how much dead money we’ve created for future years this off-season in restructures? 
 

Seems like we are real good at kicking the can down the road latelly….rather than taking the lumps and wiping the slate clean. 

Assuming the players restructured play out the length of their contracts and aren't cut/waived or traded we won't add any dead money. None of the restructures have added dummy or void years like the Saints do. 

This year we're paying Paradis and Reddick for void years but looking ahead quickly at 2023 I dont see any on Spotrac.

[Toomers]

3 minutes ago, stbugs said:

I’m sure we are in trouble because it means we are likely stuck having Robby play both years and stuff like that. It happened with Hurney and Short. That restructure added $4-5M in potential dead cap so we got the pleasure of watching him collect $26.5M for 5 games of poor play.

Restructuring is never a good thing cap wise because it means you need to spend more than your current cap space so you are stealing from the future. That is usually fine for teams competing but it’s just a sad attempt when it’s for a team with 15 total wins in 3 years.

Yep. It limits options on players that don’t play well or stay healthy. Now if a WR desperate team was willing to take Anderson, he would be an immediate 21.5M dead cap on this year because they took his base salary and kicked half down the road. Just like CMC. Trading him would actually cost 5M more on this year’s cap. 
 

   People love to say the cap doesn’t matter but when was the last time the Saints made the SB? Following this “spend it all” model? With a HOF QB the whole time. 

[Jackie Lee]

1 minute ago, SteveSmithTD89 said:

Assuming the players restructured play out the length of their contracts and aren't cut/waived or traded we won't add any dead money. None of the restructures have added dummy or void years like the Saints do. 

This year we're paying Paradis and Reddick for void years but looking ahead quickly at 2023 I dont see any on Spotrac.

Looks like they didn't add void years but I think next years cap hit for Robby went up. It's now saying his 23 hit is almost $22M, I hope thats a typo

 

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/carolina-panthers/

[J.B.]

40 minutes ago, Actionman0z said:

Saw a report that Panthers cleared around 5 more mil from Robby Anderson’s salary. Can anyone confirm that, and how much cap space we have? 
 

I wonder why? 

This means he is back for 2022

From what I am hearing Baker might be able to be obtained for a 2 that could turn into a 1. 
if we could offer the 2023 2 (or 1), and maybe dump Darnold as part of it - we have the makings of a pretty darn good offense