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The Panthers have first round grades on 3 QBs.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Steelers are gonna sit right there and draft Sam Howell and in three years everyone is going to be looking back and realizing how badly the rest of the league botched this QB draft class while the Huddle is still breaking down upcoming QB prospects because we're still flailing in the wind.

I personally think he is the sleeper here--had he had 2020 in 2021, he'd be in the top 10 discussion.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Steelers are gonna sit right there and draft Sam Howell and in three years everyone is going to be looking back and realizing how badly the rest of the league botched this QB draft class.

It is unreal how he is not talked about. People / evaluators seem to forget what he lost as weapons and OL after 2020. It will be interesting to see how his handlers spin his Pro Day and present him 

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1 minute ago, Thompcat said:

It is unreal how he is not talked about. People / evaluators seem to forget what he lost as weapons and OL after 2020. It will be interesting to see how his handlers spin his Pro Day and present him 

The NFL does this sometimes. They convince themselves of a narrative  - good or bad - and just can't overcome it. The DJ Moore/Calvin Ridley WR class comes to mind. Oh, it's such a bad WR class. No elite prospects. Blah, blah, blah. I'm sitting here like WTF are y'all talking about? There's two elite WR prospects on this class y'all just have your blinders on and can't see it. 

That's this QB class IMO. Howell is a top 10 QB. Willis is a top 10 QB based on sheer raw talent. Corral and Pickett are typical mid to late 1st round type QBs. The only thing this QB class is missing is that slam dunk "once in a decade" type prospect and people are just all fuged up because of that. It's weird to watch.

 

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14 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

He is an alcoholic headache that has a small frame.  Hard hard pass

"I don't even drink anymore." "I made a promise to myself I was going to be different," he added. "I was always doing something for other people." ---Matt Corral, July 21, 2021. 

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If we go this route and get Corral, that's fine, I just think the need to take the swing in the draft, and if it doesn't work out, take your new coach and do it again next year. Swing till you get the hit. Heavy QB classes come and go, it's not always guaranteed that next year will be better.

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1 hour ago, Zod said:

“Those in the Panthers organization view Malik Willis, Kenny Pickett and Matt Corral as the top quarterbacks in this draft class, worthy of first-round picks" 

 

From the observer. 

 

Expect a trade back and a selection of one of these guys.

Trade back would be best case scenario. Just don’t take them at #6

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