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Baker may be happening today.

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kungfoodude Grand Master

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9 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

This makes no sense at all to me because its too much of a reactionary move.  So we are going to give up draft capital for an average qb that is probably going to hurt your draft status in the long run when you just drafted a qb that you had a first round grade on.   Baker would literally be a one year rental and that doesnt do jack poo in the grand scheme of things.  Also I seriously doubt Baker is the mentor that Smith was.  There are dozens of articles detailing the relationship of mahomes and smith and how smith knew what the big picture was and was okay with it.   You think poo head Baker is going to have the same mindset? 

 

Again trading for Baker may be a slightly less

retarded version of trading for darnold.   Its fuging insanity

Well I am starting from the assumption(which is not wise considering the Darnold move) that the draft capital we are offering is pretty low(5th round or later). 

The one year rental makes sense if you are about to get fired. There is a level of everyone involved here probably realizing that the end may well be nigh if they keep losing at the rate they are. It doesn't move the needle as far as actual future of the franchise but it might buy you a little bit more breathing room if it works out.

The mentor thing is completely overblown by just about every fan in existence. Darnold isn't there to mentor anyone. Baker wouldn't be here to mentor anyone. You are there fighting for your job. Doesn't mean that you don't learn because you are in the same QB room but the idea that you keep a QB around to specifically teach a younger QB for the future doesn't work as well in reality. I'd say it's much more akin to a "learn by watching."

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5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Kinda hard to buy the notion that the guy who was pounding the drum to draft a rookie and build around him is the same guy pushing for Baker Mayfield.

Yeah but he was also the "spray and pray" at QB guy, so it doesn't necessarily NOT fit. Remember that we almost took two QB's in the draft. 

My guess is that Fitterer views this as a situation where having multiple shots at a QB increases the chances of getting a hit. That is if he indeed is the primary guy pushing for Baker.

Which, if Rhule is once again pushing for another QB, this is just shades of the past and there isn't any real change in the power dynamic between Fitterer and Rhule, as was rumored.

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20 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

We don't even know who the source is on that other than that it's been repeated on the Huddle.

We don't know who the source is for Pearson's stuff.  For all we know, its late night security guards.  Watching panthers confidential, listening to Tepper, Fitterer and Rhule, nothing has changed.

The same braintrust that brought in Darnold, hired last year's FA OL, did last years draft are the ones who  hired this year's FA OL, this years draft and is now playing footsies with Baker.  Even Pearson's source said the whole thing was collaborative.  But that gets lost here on the Huddle.

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8 minutes ago, poundaway said:

We don't know who the source is for Pearson's stuff.  For all we know, its late night security guards.  Watching panthers confidential, listening to Tepper, Fitterer and Rhule, nothing has changed.

The same braintrust that brought in Darnold, hired last year's FA OL, did last years draft are the ones who  hired this year's FA OL, this years draft and is now playing footsies with Baker.  Even Pearson's source said the whole thing was collaborative.  But that gets lost here on the Huddle.

Sources keep reporting that there is disagreement in the building on Baker. Some want him and some don't. I think the question is who is pro-Baker and who is anti-Baker? If we do or don't get him, it's not really going to matter. It's just a matter of trying to discern who has the most stroke on the personnel moves(and if it has actually changed). Also speculating on motivations for the move. Even if we knew who was more pro or anti Baker, it wouldn't come close to the complete picture. 

It's the offseason, so it's just conversation fodder, basically. It's not going to mean anything until after next season is over anyway. Once we know the actual results of whatever happens.

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