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Baker Mayfield is a Carolina Panther


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2 hours ago, frankw said:

By this time next year he'll be gone and you are welcome to follow him.

You might be the stupidest person here football wise.

 

I'm 90% sure Baker can't win the Superbowl. 

I'm 90% sure Sam could if we can get his mental game up to top 5 level.

Sam is either sink or swim and nothing in between and both are great results for us long term.

Baker is tread water. I'm sick of middle of the road.

Superbowls or something that leads to a Superbowl in the next 20 years.

 

Is Baker better than Sam? Right now probably. But he doesn't have more physical talent.

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18 minutes ago, onmyown said:

I do agree the price was right. But it’s not one mistake. I feel giving a coach making the wrong moves more ammo at the detriment of the team to be the dumbass move here personally, when the obvious one is to move on from said coach. And the team an fans suffer all the same. It’s not demanding they start, it’s demanding results with the resources given and recognizing it wouldn’t be a bright idea to allow someone to use more to make more mistakes.

Yes the price was low but was Watson’s? I mean let’s be real, Teddy, Sam, Watson…we’re really idiotic moves. We really are just throwing poo against the wall for year 5 now. Is tanking one year REALLY considered making everyone suffer competitively speaking? I say no.

But as I said price was right. I don’t hate the move I just hate we are always looking to make these moves year after year after year.

I have a feeling Watson was more Tepper than Rhule, but yeah it has been ugly.  Hopefully they have done some internal power restructuring, but who knows??

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9 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

You might be the stupidest person here football wise.

You've repeatedly argued that Sam Darnold is actually a good QB with data showing he is the worst starter over the last several years. Look in the mirror before throwing around statements like this guy.

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Matt Corral coming in and doing better than Zach Wilson or as good as Mac Jones saves our franchise and instantly makes our team a winner.

Matt Corral is a man. A man who is a very good QB. Why shouldn't the MAN play football? He played last year. He played QB in offenses before Kiffin. Now with McAdoo. What's the difference?

Matt Corral is better than Sam and Baker off top. Much higher ceiling. The focus should be acclimating him to the offense and preparing Baker and Sam for backup duty, THATS who THEY are.

The future is NOW.

 

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This franchise is p*ssy.

It's time to fall in and get behind your boy. This QB draft was sabotaged. 

The two best QBs, Matt Corral and Carson Strong, the two most accurate passers in the draft were artificially thrust to the side. Good for us because if you believe in that Kinny Pickett hype you're...

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2 hours ago, frankw said:

You've repeatedly argued that Sam Darnold is actually a good QB with data showing he is the worst starter over the last several years. Look in the mirror before throwing around statements like this guy.

I've never argued he was good.

I argued his was the best option for our long term success.

I'll take 10 3 win seasons in a row with a Superbowl over 11 playoff appearances and no Superbowls.

Sam either gets it = win

Doesn't get it and we get a great draft pick and we get to see Matt = Win.

 

Baker is going to be a 9-8 to 11-5 guy and if he does that I see these idiots signing him long term thus putting us in the position of regularly making the playoffs but never getting over the top. ALEX SMITH 3.0

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57 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

Sam either gets it = win

Sam Darnold isn't going to magically "get it". He has been the same catastrophe prone quarterback since USC. Please accept what is in front of you for the sake of what is left of your sanity. As for Baker. If he doesn't work out it's Corral and another draft pick if that doesn't yield the results we seek. But there is no scenario where Darnold is a franchise quarterback. This really isn't as complicated as you are making it.

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