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MC9's skill set is greater than Baker's.

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Remember dum dums. Corral didn't slip for on the field deficiencies. Slip means you fell, he fell from where? First round projections. Not second round projections. Nobody, not even the pundits can question IF he can play. Not only CAN he play, he makes guys around him better.

He's the best QB on this team, who if you let play, by the end of the season you could possibly have the gem of the draft and maybe a OROY. Why take that opportunity away from Matt Corral?! He's not man enough to play QB at a high level like he did in the SEC?! C'mon. Bubble wrap? 

Matt Corral has a chip on his shoulder, he just wants some sugar in that contract because he KNOWS he will outperform his draft position.

If I were McAdoo I'd be coaching Matt to take the other two out. Like I've said, somebody probably doesn't want McAdoo to be the one to build a offense around and coach up a potential OROY at QB.

He'd either take his job or be on the next train smoking like Chud.

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55 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

You really need to research their college stats before making a bold statement..

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/baker-mayfield-1.html

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https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matt-corral-1.html

He might be a better pro.. Still needs to be proven..

But in college it's not even close..

 

Baker played in appreciably more games in a markedly less talented conference with higher skill-position players on a more consistent basis. Name me one player of note that Corral has played with for any consistent amount of time while in the toughest conference in CFB. Anyone of note left before he got his full-time gig.  Corral's years ('20 & '21) as the unquestioned QB1 were with guys who had oven mitts for hands. Moreover, I'm sure you forgot to press that little "rushing & receiving" tab. 

When you put things within context, the "not even close" becomes "not as far as I thought".  Give Corral eight more games in the most superior conference in CFB (and it's not even close), and the stats become somewhat similar from a total production standpoint. If he plays those in the Big 12, the stats are even more similar. 

Baker had it made at OSU basically. Corral was in the tougher spot and had a rougher path to the starting role (and ultimately the NFL), and I will submit to you that iron sharpens iron. 

Edit: And, BTW, I researched all this before I made my bold statement, as I knew someone would bring it up. In a more general sense, I've researched Corral more than most here I'd suspect, and I've been telling y'all that he's got it for months.

 

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The ONLY thing I'm concerned about with Corral is his size. The size of his game is larger than you'd suspect for a QB of his size, but Mayfield is similarly built. Darnold is our only QB with prototypical size. But Corral will probably add a few pounds. This, along with smart play, will hopefully hold him in good stead.

Injury was a thing last year for all our current QBs except for Walker. Good thing we invested in the O-line. 

 

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5 hours ago, top dawg said:

Corral can not only sling the ball, he can run circles around Mayfield. He's more physically gifted. I don't know why you guys are so comfortable proclaiming that Mayfield is the better physical talent. And you're acting like he isn't even in Mayfield's stratosphere. You're wrong!

 

Not only is he more athletic--Mayfield can't run out of a paper bag--he's just as strong.

I am no sure what specific drugs you got into but Matt Corral doesn't have nearly the arm talent that Baker Mayfield does. Nor is he capable of making some of the throws Baker is.

Doesn't mean he might not prove to be a better NFL QB, given Baker's inconsistent play in his career. However, there is literally no question about the talent level disparity.

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10 hours ago, Wolfcop said:

Corrall will get his shot next year UNLESS he comes out looking great in camp. Either way, his time is coming. 

People keep saying this and the administration keeps saying this but if rhule and co poo the bed this year then they are out.  And you can be damn sure the new coach is going to want to draft his guy and not have to start out his tenure leaning on a 3rd round pick that hasnt seen the field. 

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Funny how folks on the Corral train have literally no NFL play to back them up yet he is already the best talent. He is the most physically talented yet he has no combine stats or pro day stats at all.  Truth is there is virtually no evidence that he is or was a better quarterback in college or he is more physically athletic than Mayfield who is a proven commodity.  I understand extreme fandom but this is ridiculous.  We all hope Corral is excellent but the jury is out. His college numbers look a lot like another college qb we drafted in the third round, Will Greer who threw for the same 8 thousand yards in 3 years first at Florida and then at West Virginia.

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9 hours ago, top dawg said:

Did you get a gander at my earlier post with Corral at the QB competition throwing 77 yards? Yeah, it wasn't a game, but still. 

I would bet that Mayfield can't test better than Corral in anything pertaining to athletic ability. The 40, long jump, vertical jump, lifts, anything. And I'm being dead serious.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.saturdaydownsouth.com/sec-football/video-5-star-sec-target-matt-corral-throws-77-yard-pass-opening/amp/

Luckily you don’t have to long jump too often as a quarterback….. putting all your hopes and dreams into a 3rd round pick is an interesting move. But he went in the 3rd for a reason. If he were so talented and so physically gifted his draft stock would have reflected it.  

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14 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Again, he supposedly fell in the draft for off field whatever.

Aaron Rodgers is 6'2" also. Almost prototypical but definitely taller than Baker.

Baker Mayfield is a failed QB. Who isn't better than a failure?

Baker a failed quarterback? I want what you are smoking. Baker took a terrible team and turned them into a playoff team in 3 years. In fact he is one of the best QBs to ever play for Cleveland.  The only failure here is your post.

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