Panthers trade for wide receiver Laviska Shenault

[Proudiddy]

45 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

At 6'1" 227# he's honestly built a lot more like a RB than a typical WR. He ran a 4.58 40 at the Combine which is pretty decent for his size but what was a bit eye opening is that he didn't do any other drills (other than the bench - 17 reps). You would've liked to have seen that 40 time paired with some decent agility numbers and leaps showing explosion. For him to show up and run a 4.58 and not do anything else kinda tells you that his straight line speed was his best measurable trait and it turned out to only be marginal.

 

Idk, I'm not gonna read too much into it, although I would tend to agree with you, but there are some guys that just know how to move when they step on the field, regardless of their measurables.  And again, judging from his production so far in the pros and looking at the tape, he shows plenty short-area explosiveness to make plays.  

[Panthers Rhule]

5 minutes ago, frankw said:

Has anyone mentioned he might be "our" Deebo yet? Who is "our" Kyle Shanahan to coach him up then?

Nooooo, you're the first person who's thought of that and you got to take a shot at a coach too. It's looking like today is going to be your day. 

 

[Wundrbread33]

59 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

That's like saying mike tolbert and cmc typically do the same thing. Because hey they play the same position and both catch the football...

I was joking because the other guy kept saying “Curtis Samuel but beefier and slower.”

 

[Mr. Scot]

30 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Honestly, I have no idea what kind of football team they are trying to build here. 

Sure would feel better if I thought THEY knew what kind of football team they are trying to build here.

Sometimes I still get the feeling that Fit is the "in on every deal" kind of guy that other GMs abuse.

Getting picks in return for guys like Dennis Daley and Greg Little doesn't feel like "abuse" to me.

As far as what we're building, this particular deal probably started with Ben McAdoo. He was with the Jaguars for Shenault's rookie season.

Most likely, McAdoo believes they can use him in some fashion.

[electro's horse]

I still don’t see what we sent for him. 

[Proudiddy]

30 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Honestly, I have no idea what kind of football team they are trying to build here. 

Sure would feel better if I thought THEY knew what kind of football team they are trying to build here.

Sometimes I still get the feeling that Fit is the "in on every deal" kind of guy that other GMs abuse.

I have to disagree.  We damn sure didn't get abused on the Baker or Gilmore trades.  Depending on how he plays this year, we probably won the Henderson trade as well.  I don't count Darnold on Fitt because it apparently was pushed for mostly by Rhule and has been very different from the other trades we know were sought out and initiated by Fitt and the FO, in terms of compensation contrasted with the actual player's value.  And finally, I think if you look at the roster Fitt has built, it is quite possi ly the deepest/most talented roster from top to bottom we have ever fielded...  so he is killing it, imo.  The issue is Rhule.  Imagine what a Belichick, Andy Reid, Tomlin, Bruce Arians, Harbaugh, or Vrabel could do with this roster...  which is why if Rhule finds a way to lose with it, he needs to go and go early and give McAdoo or Wilks a shot at becoming the guy.

[Proudiddy]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I still don’t see what we sent for him. 

I think it was posted elsewhere in then merged in this thread somewhere, but I believe it was a conditional 6th and 7th in '23 and '24, respectively, IIRC.

[CRA]

3 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I still don’t see what we sent for him. 

I haven't either.  There were some "fan" twitter accounts claiming stuff last night but I haven't seen anyone legit report it. 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, electro's horse said:

I still don’t see what we sent for him. 

The only source that's reported anything is a Jacksonville TV person.

It seems plausible, but no one else has yet confirmed whether or not that's accurate (at least not that I've seen)

[poundaway]

15 minutes ago, frankw said:

Has anyone mentioned he might be "our" Deebo yet? Who is "our" Kyle Shanahan to coach him up then?

Hey you're right.  I never really noticed.  Kyle Shanahan was 10-22 his first two seasons, before he found his QB.  I'll bet 9ers fans were calling for his head.   Thanks for pointing out the parallel frankie.

[Malt Liquor]

The kid can ball I like the trade!!

[KSpan]

4 minutes ago, poundaway said:

Hey you're right.  I never really noticed.  Kyle Shanahan was 10-22 his first two seasons, before he found his QB.  I'll bet 9ers fans were calling for his head.   Thanks for pointing out the parallel frankie.

You can't be serious with a Rhule/Shanahan comparison based solely on record.

[poundaway]

Just now, KSpan said:

You can't be serious with a Rhule/Shanahan comparison based solely on record.

Of course not, but I didn't make the comparison. Frankie did. 

In the end, if Shananhan only had losing seasons, he wouldn't be so revered.

The only thing to change the narrative on Rhule is wins.

Lets hope we  get a lot more this year.

[Panthers Rhule]

NFL. com confirms

The Jaguars traded Shenault to the Carolina Panthers on Monday in exchange for a 2023 seventh-round draft pick and a 2024 sixth-round selection, NFL Network Insiders Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero reported.

 

Panthers acquire WR Laviska Shenault from Jaguars in trade (nfl.com)

 

I think that's a nice trade. I'm starting to like Jax. They can keep trading us their top picks for late rounders all day.

 

Edited August 30, 2022 by Panthers Rhule