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Now is the time for the Panthers


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10 minutes ago, Pakmeng said:

Tom Brady turned Tampa in to a winner. It's not like Ariens was some great coach. Players make the difference. It's not out of the question.

Tampa had a long streak of mediocrity and poor performance that left their roster brimming with talent. All they needed was someone like Brady to elevate them to an elite level. 

We definitely aren't there yet. We might not be far away with 2-3 good offseasons in a row.

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2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

This is literally like the 4rth thread saying the same thing over and over

It’s that time just like every year where people post this stuff where as the long timers just roll their eyes.
 

Usually it’s by posters who post sept/oct with their ‘optimism’ never to be seen again when the Panthers start losing only to repeat next season, same time, all while calling others ‘negative’ and ‘fake fans’.

However Jmac actually contributes during off-season/regardless so…

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2 hours ago, CarolinaLivin said:

How did we go from 30 “Fire Rhule” threads to “we’re gonna win the division”.

Not to ruin the hope people have but… bad head coaches and winning normally don’t go together. So…

Baker's performance against the Bills I believe inspired a lot of people on here. As it rightfully should have. 

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20 minutes ago, Fright said:

Baker's performance against the Bills I believe inspired a lot of people on here. As it rightfully should have. 

Baker’s performance in a preseason game against a teams 2’s and 3’s was good. But i need a week 1 performance to fully bring me in. I always hope for the best. I’ll have to see it to believe it, I can’t keep falling for these sales pitches and camp confidentials. 

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5 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

Baker’s performance in a preseason game against a teams 2’s and 3’s was good. But i need a week 1 performance to fully bring me in. I always hope for the best. I’ll have to see it to believe it, I can’t keep falling for these sales pitches and camp confidentials. 

Same here man... but I can definitely see why there has been a turn of minds. 

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1 hour ago, Pakmeng said:

Tom Brady turned Tampa in to a winner. It's not like Ariens was some great coach. Players make the difference. It's not out of the question.

Arians has his issues but he has had a lot of success out of Tampa too. If not for us being dominant for 17 games in 2015 he probably brings AZ to the Super Bowl. Also was great for the Colts when filling in for the HC who had cancer. I don't like the guy but there's no denying he knows the game very well. He's also never had below 7 wins in a season in 9 years as a HC. Rhule has 5 wins in 2 straight seasons. I'm not giving up on Rhule like others quite yet, but I do think you need at least an adequate HC to have success in this league. There's just so much that goes into it, ability to adjust midgame is so important, etc. Maybe you can get around that with a HoF talent at QB but otherwise I don't think so

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