baker is a franchise quarterback

[Khaki Lackey]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Oh sure. I mean who could ever possibly blame lack of practice reps for looking unprepared?

Just crazy, I know

Explain to me how there were no missed snaps and batted down passes in preseason? How many reps does it take to prevent a 4th year vet from forgetting how to play football in a two seek span?

[Waldo]

This is who Baker always was, it's just his worst version as Rhule delivers with his QBs.

He is not a franchise QB but he is good enough to work with a rookie HC with time to find a franchise QB...for the right price.

[PhillyB]

40 minutes ago, Khaki Lackey said:

I'm not defending Rhule. Rhule might be the one thing you're finally right about, so congrats.

Baker's play was total cheeks in the first half now matter how many excuses you make for him, and training camp reps were not the reason.

not making excuses for cheeks play but i think those smacked-down passes got in his head early and it snowballed.

the reason i say he's a franchise qb (or looks like one) is he nutted up and rallied, took the team downfield to close the gap at the half and played on fire the rest of the game. darnolds and bridgewaters don't do what baker did when they have rough starts, they fold and get blown out.

[Manna]

Baker yesterday reminded me of how Delhomme played. There would be games where Jake would be terrible but come to life in crunch time. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

I’m waiting till week 8 before I’m jumping the gun, Sam Darnold looked the part the first 3 weeks of last season too 

[Khaki Lackey]

11 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

not making excuses for cheeks play but i think those smacked-down passes got in his head early and it snowballed.

the reason i say he's a franchise qb (or looks like one) is he nutted up and rallied, took the team downfield to close the gap at the half and played on fire the rest of the game. darnolds and bridgewaters don't do what baker did when they have rough starts, they fold and get blown out.

Oh hell yeah. Baker totally redeemed himself and if he got that first half out of his system and plays like the second half Baker, he'll do just fine.

I'm just of the opinion that the bad snaps, smacked down passes, and bad accuracy of the fist half had a HUGE impact on the game. We were in a lot of 2nd/3rd and long situations, which doesn't help when trying to establish the run. Also the number of three and outs don't help a defense that struggles against the run.

Our coaching staff sucks, but the L yesterday was directly related to Baker's 1st half performance.

Edited September 12, 2022 by Khaki Lackey

[*FreeFua*]

7 minutes ago, Manna said:

Baker yesterday reminded me of how Delhomme played. There would be games where Jake would be terrible but come to life in crunch time. 

And we should’ve won 24-23 yesterday… the exact same score Carolina/Delhomme beat Jax by in 2003

[*FreeFua*]

Outside of his piss poor interception throw that entire 1st quarter and most of the 2nd I put on coaching 

Edited September 12, 2022 by *FreeFua*

[mrcompletely11]

15 minutes ago, PhillyB said:

not making excuses for cheeks play but i think those smacked-down passes got in his head early and it snowballed.

the reason i say he's a franchise qb (or looks like one) is he nutted up and rallied, took the team downfield to close the gap at the half and played on fire the rest of the game. darnolds and bridgewaters don't do what baker did when they have rough starts, they fold and get blown out.

The Brown DC said yesterday that since they were familiar with Baker they knew exactly what needed to be done to throw him off.  Crowd the pocket and put your hands up and they will frustrate him.  Seems pretty simple to me. 

[mrcompletely11]

11 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

I’m waiting till week 8 before I’m jumping the gun, Sam Darnold looked the part the first 3 weeks of last season too 

I have us about 1-7 2-6 at that point.  Maybe beat the Falcons, maybe san fran but I doubt it.

[Mr. Scot]

21 minutes ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Explain to me how there were no missed snaps and batted down passes in preseason? How many reps does it take to prevent a 4th year vet from forgetting how to play football in a two seek span?

Ask any NFL player, regardless of how many years they've played, whether or not they'll look better with more reps or not.

As far as the batted passed, that was a particular emphasis by Stefanski. He had told his D-line guys to make sure they got up in the air a lot specifically to try and do that because he expected quick drops and was familiar with Mayfield's typical trajectory.

Look to me like McAdoo probably made some adjustments on the dropback to account for that because we didn't see it so much in the second half (if at all).

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I have us about 1-7 2-6 at that point.  Maybe beat the Falcons, maybe san fran but I doubt it.

Shannahan won’t let Lance drag the Niners down till week 5.

If the Niners stink the next 2-3 weeks Jimmy G plays week 5 and we don’t beat them 

[Luciu5]

17 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

I already see we are going to have posters that originally were down on Baker stay down on him when he plays well. I know we will have the opposite as well. I feel most rational people think he did his part today and willed them into a position to win the game (only to be let down by his coach and defense).

He dug them out of a hole of his own doing. (depends on how much weight you put on Baker for the muffed snaps and the batted passes)

[*FreeFua*]

26 minutes ago, Khaki Lackey said:

Explain to me how there were no missed snaps and batted down passes in preseason? How many reps does it take to prevent a 4th year vet from forgetting how to play football in a two seek span?

Elflein botched a snap to Baker the very first drive in Washington