Dan Orlovsky on the Panthers

[top dawg]

2 hours ago, BrianS said:

Quarterback is not our problem.  Teams with lesser QB's are finding ways to win.  The Falcons put up 27 on the Rams with Marcus Mariota at QB.  The Cowboys score 20 with Cooper Rush.  The Browns scored 30 with Brissett.

Honestly tired of the excuse that QB is our problem.  Rivera won five games with Kyle freaking Allen as his starting QB.  I'm not saying we're going deep in the playoffs with Baker as our QB.  I'm not sure Baker is the guy.  But he's not the reason we are where we are.

 

Yeah, all those batted balls haven't affected the game, nor missing wide open receivers (which he did in Cleveland), or the fact that he simply bails from the pocket immediately...that has nothing to do with us being where we are.

Baker may not be the only problem, but he's definitely a problem.

[joemac]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

The OC version was under a long time offensive HC.  That was one of the most over the top micromanagers in coaching.  

as HC McAdoo actually got to do whatever he wanted with the O.  And it was horrific. 

I also think it is framed poorly to call those career years for Manning.   They weren’t really career years.  They sucked and couldn’t win.  And Manning har to pass all game because they sucked and were always trying to comeback.

 

Ok, yeah fair point, but they were career years in the sense that he set career highs in passing yards and passing touchdowns.  But damn, I just went back and looked at Elis stats, and he threw a poo ton of INTs some years.  He had 3 seasons with more than 20 picks, and 2 with more than 25.  27 is his career high.  Yikes.  But yeah, McAdoo ain't hitting on poo so far with this offense.  

[X-Clown]

1 hour ago, Luciu5 said:

I dont' think anyone is really suggesting. I think it's more predicting that's what we do.

Example:

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I want Sam back.. No I’m not joking or being sarcastic. He has more extensive knowledge of the playbook and we have a healthy cmc and slightly better O line than last year. Bet anything Sam will be starting next Sunday 

 

[Peppers90 NC]

2 hours ago, davos said:

I don't understand what McAdoo is doing with Moore and CMC.  It's bewildering how ineffective he's made them.  Brady at least had plays built into his rather bland playbook that were tailored to get them space and work with their strengths. 

If anything, I think Brady may have had the right idea but it was way too simplified and easily figured out.

McAdoo just has the wrong idea.

He has been very underwhelming so far.

[Luciu5]

1 hour ago, X-Clown said:

Example:

 

I saw that like 2 mins after reading this thread.  

[Mother Grabber]

someone calling plays has a crush on Shi Smith

[Snake]

4 hours ago, hepcat said:

Or the fact is Rhule's a college coach and can't handle a complex offense so he's hired simplistic offensive coordinators

I would say that what Rhule does really doesn't effect offensive or Defense. He really doesn't have experience in either. It's probably why we have a big 10 DC. 

[Snake]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

I mean,  McAdoo was literally run out of the league from calling plays for being painfully predictable and unimaginative on offense. 

Fair odds it’s largely just McAdoo being McAdoo.   And Rhule being Rhule.  It’s not a good combo given what we know of the two 

I would bet money on that. 

[Snake]

2 hours ago, RumHam said:

Thats on fitterer

Is it? Or was it Rhules with his earn your place BS. 

[Snake]

2 hours ago, rayzor said:

but he's supposed to have a photographic memory.

Who knows. Either way it's not working. 

[rippadonn]

4 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

That excuse has already been used for the suckage. We need different excuses. 

[rayzor]

37 minutes ago, Snake said:

Who knows. Either way it's not working. 

and he's supposed to be this gutsy guy. i haven't seen that at all.

[rippadonn]

2 hours ago, top dawg said:

Yeah, all those batted balls haven't affected the game, nor missing wide open receivers (which he did in Cleveland), or the fact that he simply bails from the pocket immediately...that has nothing to do with us being where we are.

Baker may not be the only problem, but he's definitely a problem.

He's just another Teddy, Sam, Cam/Sam, scapegoats for a coach who knows he's out of his league. He didn't even try to groom his own rookie QB to start in the NFL. He went full retread.

You never go full retread.

[rippadonn]