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If you’re serious about winning, Brian Flores is the coach

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I really like Flores.  I wanted him as HC as soon as he became available this offseason, and I would be ecstatic if that's the direction we went - but, I do honestly prefer a young OC like Leftwich or Dorsey.  That being said, I still kind of consider all of them as equally desirable for next HC, if that makes any sense.

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Context is key.

2019 - 3rd easiest schedule in the NFL (5-11)

2020 - 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL (10-6)

2021 - Overall easiest schedule in the NFL (9-8)

I’m not sure I want a .500 coach who can’t get his team over the hump when provided with the easiest overall group of games from the last three years.

In case you were wondering, the Dolphins current SOS… most difficult schedule in the NFL.

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1 minute ago, FugginPoo said:

What employer in their right mind would hire someone who is willing to play the race card and prevent them from making rational decisions down the road?

What kind of NFL owner fires a coach who took a dumpster fire of a franchise and roster and made them respectable almost immediately?!?

If Jeff Fisher gets two chances in this league, John Fox gets three chances then Flores sure as heck deserves another shot at it

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1 minute ago, MillionDollarCam said:

Context is key.

2019 - 3rd easiest schedule in the NFL (5-11)

2020 - 2nd easiest schedule in the NFL (10-6)

2021 - Overall easiest schedule in the NFL (9-8)

I’m not sure I want a .500 coach who can’t get his team over the hump when provided with the easiest overall group of games from the last three years.

In case you were wondering, the Dolphins current SOS… most difficult schedule in the NFL.

look at that 2020 roster and 2019 roster, it is HORRENDOUS. The guy was winning games with career journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick

McDaniel is a good coach down there now but just about anyone can look impressive when you have Waddle and Tyreek lining up

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11 minutes ago, FugginPoo said:

What employer in their right mind would hire someone who is willing to play the race card and prevent them from making rational decisions down the road?

America was built upon playing the race card, and those in power still refuse to make rational decisions because of it. So...miss me with that.

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1 hour ago, TheBigKat said:

This man was pulling miracles in Miami with an abysmal roster. He was 24-25 in his ‘rebuild’ years before the sleazeball owner Ross canned him.

 

 He’s a leader of men- Dolphins players were livid when he got canned

He has first hand experience with undermining owners

Worked with Belichick and now Tomlin, two of the best in the game

Proven track record on stabilizing abysmal franchise

If we’re not going to get an offensive minded coach then I’m taking Flores over Demico Ryans

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I disagree.   I think Flores is an ok coach.  I would put him on the same level as Rivera or someone similar.   The biggest thing that hurts his case in my mind is they had a pretty talented roster and the team didnt take a step back at all when he left, if anything theyve looked somewhat better.

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21 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

I really like Flores.  I wanted him as HC as soon as he became available this offseason, and I would be ecstatic if that's the direction we went - but, I do honestly prefer a young OC like Leftwich or Dorsey.  That being said, I still kind of consider all of them as equally desirable for next HC, if that makes any sense.

No to anyone from the Belichik tree. There are also too many known negatives with Flores. As far as the other 2 you mentioned, as I have said before...I am afraid that Leftwich gets too much credit...he has had Arians (who is still around in Tampa) and Brady.  Dorsey has not proven anything/built anything yet.  So far he has just not screwed up the offense he inherited.

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19 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

look at that 2020 roster and 2019 roster, it is HORRENDOUS. The guy was winning games with career journeyman Ryan Fitzpatrick

McDaniel is a good coach down there now but just about anyone can look impressive when you have Waddle and Tyreek lining up

Fitzpatrick won 4 games in 2019, over the past 14 years (2008-2021), Fitzpatrick has won 59 games… what does that average out to… 4 wins a year.

Flores didn’t do anything special with Fitzpatrick, Fitzpatrick just did what he always does, gets you 4 wins.

Horrendous roster or not, you have to deal with the hand you are dealt… not to mention the fact that Tua looks like a completely different player under McDaniel.

Then there’s this… I prefer a coach to have better rapport with his QB than what Flores had with Tua.

 

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