Tanier: Panthers in Good Shape

[Waldo]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We might be dealing with a more lucid version of late stage Al Davis.

If Tepper starts calling the field to dictate plays then we need to start working on a good frame job. That is a big step in the wrong direction. 

[Sgt Schultz]

3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We might be dealing with a more lucid version of late stage Al Davis.

That is a frightening thought right there.  I wish I could say there was no basis for it, but I can't.

[L-TownCat]

8 minutes ago, KSpan said:

The fact that he actually sounded a bit humbled/defeated at times during his press conference gives me a small sliver of hope that he might get something right this time, if only by accident. I'm hardly counting on it, but it's a sliver more than I had in the recent past.

I’d attribute that to having to stand in front of a national media to take questions about his failures.

I would caution against assuming he’s been “humbled”. He sounded more than ready to bite back at the press, but appeared to be restraining himself.

The $100,000 question is who has Tepp’s ear, and what are they going to tell him?

[Mr. Scot]

I find this odd given I was assured by Panther fans that we had the worst roster in the history of football and anyone associated with it must be purged

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I find this odd given I was assured by Panther fans that we had the worst roster in the history of football and anyone associated with it must be purged

we have a roster that is bottom half of the nfl

[PghPanther]

1 minute ago, L-TownCat said:

I’d attribute that to having to stand in front of a national media to take questions about his failures.

I would caution against assuming he’s been “humbled”. He sounded more than ready to bite back at the press, but appeared to be restraining himself.

The $100,000 question is who has Tepp’s ear, and what are they going to tell him?

Tepper humbled?

Read this........

...and if there is any validity to it.........Charlotte and the Panthers are in for a ride and it's not going to be pretty.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2011/7/18/995855/-

 

 

 

[CRA]

19 minutes ago, KSpan said:

The fact that he actually sounded a bit humbled/defeated at times during his press conference gives me a small sliver of hope that he might get something right this time, if only by accident. I'm hardly counting on it, but it's a sliver more than I had in the recent past.

I think the end of the presser showed the real Tepper.  Beginning of it was him playing the role he was prepped to display. 

Did he sound humbled and defeated at the end of the presser? 

Issue with Tepper is he isn't going to sell the team and he is the one person we are stuck with.   So while he probably is problem #1 he is one problem we can't expect to change any time soon.   We need a good HC/GM combo.  Simple as that.  A combo that can deal with a bad owner and mitigate it. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, PghPanther said:

Tepper humbled?

Read this........

...and if there is any validity to it.........Charlotte and the Panthers are in for a ride and it's not going to be pretty.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2011/7/18/995855/-

 

 

 

Honestly he comes off as shrewd and smart there.  Can not blame him for taking advantage of an obvious opportunity.  And I am no tepper fan

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think the end of the presser showed the real Tepper.  Beginning of it was him playing the role he was prepped to display. 

Did he sound humbled and defeated at the end of the presser? 

Issue with Tepper is he isn't going to sell the team and he is the one person we are stuck with.   So while he probably is problem #1 he is one problem we can't expect to change any time soon.   We need a good HC/GM combo.  Simple as that.  A combo that can deal with a bad owner and mitigate it. 

He sounded like someone who just pissed away 70 million

[L-TownCat]

2 minutes ago, PghPanther said:

Tepper humbled?

Read this........

...and if there is any validity to it.........Charlotte and the Panthers are in for a ride and it's not going to be pretty.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2011/7/18/995855/-

 

 

 

I said be careful assuming he had been “humbled”.  He’s not the type.

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, PghPanther said:

Tepper humbled?

Read this........

...and if there is any validity to it.........Charlotte and the Panthers are in for a ride and it's not going to be pretty.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2011/7/18/995855/-

 

 

 

That's from 2011

[KSpan]

29 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He sounded that way when he was sticking to the script. The longer he went and the more frustrated he got the more he seemed like the same old cocky asshole.

 

 

19 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

I’d attribute that to having to stand in front of a national media to take questions about his failures.

I would caution against assuming he’s been “humbled”. He sounded more than ready to bite back at the press, but appeared to be restraining himself.

The $100,000 question is who has Tepp’s ear, and what are they going to tell him?

 

10 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think the end of the presser showed the real Tepper.  Beginning of it was him playing the role he was prepped to display. 

Did he sound humbled and defeated at the end of the presser? 

Issue with Tepper is he isn't going to sell the team and he is the one person we are stuck with.   So while he probably is problem #1 he is one problem we can't expect to change any time soon.   We need a good HC/GM combo.  Simple as that.  A combo that can deal with a bad owner and mitigate it. 

No real disagreement on any of this, and perhaps humility is a strong word, but the anger and bullheadedness at the end doesn't have to solely reflect his approach to team management. Perhaps as a more cynical take, we can maybe hope that his pride has been stung enough and that he wants to be publicly lauded enough that he follows an actual NFL process when looking for the next coach.

[TheCasillas]

Love that the writer calls out my favorite coaching candidate: shane steichen. Bringing him here would be awesome.

[3838]

Ok, I've just got to say, as fans we have an emotional and most times a financial investment to our teams. I certainly do. But, there's a couple ways to look at the Panthers current ownership. One we can come to the realization that Tepper is here like it or not and hope the guys on the the field play at a high level and win. Or-complain, which is our right to do. Remember most owners are not "Mother Teresa".  Look , for example at Georgia Frontiere , she was the former owner of the LA/St. Louis Rams. Was a "socialite" (whatever that is) who married the former owner Carroll Rosenbloom. Rams fans remember her as a complete buffoon but somehow they won the Lombardi. Or Jack Kent Cooke former Washington owner during their glory years, who was an alleged wife beater and one of his subsequent wives was the former mistress of a Columbian cartel bigwig.....sweethearts all around.