Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Hypothetical QB add


CRA
 Share

Recommended Posts

10 hours ago, CRA said:

7 scoring drives.  Most points on the season. 

Cam coming in at 2 yard line to vulture TDs for us fans twice doesn’t change the fact the O moved the ball all game long.    CMC was the actual MVP in that upset.  Cam just gave us the feel good moment and stole the spotlight. 

In his 2 starts, the O has moved the ball.  They moved it very well the other start vs the Lions.  He just had 2 really dumb throws that game. 

But when prepped for a start the O has moved with PJ.  He will make 2-3 dumb throws.  It is what it is. 

and all my PJ Walker gimmick/fun aside…..I do believe he is relatively on par with Sam Darnold tier of QB.  That’s not a compliment of PJ though.  Anything we can pull off with Sam we can pull off with PJ. 

You can't suggest Cam vultured PJ's TDs at the 2-yard-line while glossing over the fact that PJ's "2 really dumb throws" against the Lions were at exactly the same spot lol (okay okay, the Detroit 4-yard-line and 7-yard-line).  For all we know, Cam coming in and scoring those TDs prevented some boneheaded PJ goal-line interceptions if we're judging off of empirical evidence.  I know you've seen enough of this offense over the past few seasons to know that a Panthers "1st and Goal" type situation is far from a sure TD...maybe more like a 25% chance if we're being generous.

Moving the ball all game long is well and good (and tbh a HUGE upgrade to what we've seen from this year's offense) but it doesn't mean much if you have a QB who throws terrible redzone interceptions.  I mean, moving the ball between the 20s and stalling out in the red zone was the story of our 2020 season.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

15 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

You can't suggest Cam vultured PJ's TDs at the 2-yard-line while glossing over the fact that PJ's "2 really dumb throws" against the Lions were at exactly the same spot lol (okay okay, the Detroit 4-yard-line and 7-yard-line).  For all we know, Cam coming in and scoring those TDs prevented some boneheaded PJ goal-line interceptions if we're judging off of empirical evidence.  I know you've seen enough of this offense over the past few seasons to know that a Panthers "1st and Goal" type situation is far from a sure TD...maybe more like a 25% chance if we're being generous.

Moving the ball all game long is well and good (and tbh a HUGE upgrade to what we've seen from this year's offense) but it doesn't mean much if you have a QB who throws terrible redzone interceptions.  I mean, moving the ball between the 20s and stalling out in the red zone was the story of our 2020 season.

CMC was healthy for the AZ game.  He wasn’t for the Lions game. 

and yeah, CMC did all the heavy lifting vs AZ.   He had a field day vs AZ.  And when he got to the endzone Cam got the glory.  Which is fine.   But reality is Cam wasn’t the dude who won the game.  CMC did. And AZ wasn’t stopping CMC from the 2 yard line either. 

CMC is healthy right now.   If McAdoo could actually call a good game we could be competitive.  Biggest issue right now is an OC that figure out to use the best weapon in the NFL IMO when healthy.  I mean it’s painful watching McAdoo misuse CMC.  Not the fact we have to play PJ one week.  

a healthy CMC, a good defense….and a decent OC should have us in games with meh teams.  PJ , Darnold or Baker.    If we aren’t competitive Sunday it’s because Rhule brought in joke McAdoo more than anything. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

17 hours ago, saX man said:

I know they're in a post-SB funk, but if Steve Wilks and PJ Walker go out and beat McVay's Rams, oh man, that's gon be fun to see the fallout.

Just triple cover Kupp and blitz Stafford.  They can't do much else.

And their O line is basically all in intensive care, so we've got that going for us...

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • I think he did a solid job.  Honestly I liked his post game interview the best.  He gave himself a C and said he left a lot out on the field.  That kind of attitude can carry him far.
    • This is lacking a fairly considerable amount of context. For one, Adams(age 22) started 12 of 16 games, had 38 rec, 446 yds and 3 TD's on 66 targets(18 less, with 2 less games started). The main thing missing here is that the top two WR's for Green Bay that year combined for about 2800 yds and 25 TD's. Now if you want to throw a more accurate dart at Adams, take a look at year two. This year the production was spread around considerably and Adams didn't stand out from that pack(pun not intended).  So, if XL struggles mightily this season, I would probably keep that comparison in your quiver to counter argue. I would suggest that I don't think that scenario is probably very accurate for most HOF caliber WR's taken in the first round over the past 15 or so years. Adams was the 89th pick overall, as well. A little different hill to climb than XL, although not massively.
    • to clarify I am not referring to Will Levis.  Not knowingly.   I just made that up and tried to use a reasonable guesstimate of what else was done.  That sounded in the ballpark.  At one time I did look it all up and there were several teams that had much more successful days downfield.   If that happened to be Levis' actual numbers than it's more of a lucky coincidence.  If memory serves, it wasn't just Will Levis that brought the claim into question, it was SEVERAL teams had better days.  and you are missing my entire point of the subjective nature of it all.  If PFF employee Doug watched Bryce's film and then used his same unique subjective vantage point to grade all 31 other starting QBs.  Then dumped into into a spread sheet, it would a subjective Doug take but at least it would be a level uniform subjectivity.   The grades are done by various people.  All watching and applying their own subjective view to a play.  Everyone isn't going to grade incompletions out the same.  Or completions.   So when you dump it all into a spread sheet and hit sort.....it's not actually a statement of fact as portrayed.  Which is why you sometimes get some head scratching stuff.  I'm not reframing anything.   I don't think.  I just wasn't going to look it all back up so I was talking vaguely off the general issue I have with PFF and treating any random claim they make as the truth. 
×
×
  • Create New...