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Former NFL executive picks his top QB...

Mr. Scot

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One of the most important qualities in a quarterback is their ability to lead a team and have a respected voice in the locker room. The great ones are THE leader of their team and the guy that the team looks to when games get tough. With that said, I don't know how anyone can expect Will Levis to command an NFL locker room when he PROUDLY puts mayonnaise in his coffee. That alone was enough to remove him completely from my draft board. Intangibles matter.

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Well the argument would make more sense if he was good against inferior competition like the other QBs, but he hasn’t been that great. Threw an INT against Miami (OH), 2 against Youngstown St., 0 TD 1 INT 15 QBR in giving Vandy their first SEC win in like 4 years or something crazy like that. Maybe he’s the best QB prospect, but the reasoning given here is pretty dumb.

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I am curious as to what injuries he is playing through right now. He looked solid last year and I know he has turf toe, a shoulder injury (non throwing), and fingers on his throwing hand (similar to Rodgers this year). All of those plus UK’s shitty line could be holding him back quite a bit. I don’t like him at the top of the first, but towards the middle and bottom I might be interested. 

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31 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Well the argument would make more sense if he was good against inferior competition like the other QBs, but he hasn’t been that great. Threw an INT against Miami (OH), 2 against Youngstown St., 0 TD 1 INT 15 QBR in giving Vandy their first SEC win in like 4 years or something crazy like that. Maybe he’s the best QB prospect, but the reasoning given here is pretty dumb.

Don't forget he threw for 98 total yards and 3 INT's 0 TD's against Tennessee's 130th ranked secondary. 5 rushes for negative 22 yards however that happens. That's the game where he should have put up some numbers to be taken seriously

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1 hour ago, The Lobo said:

I wonder why this guy is so polarizing, we have execs and PFF who love the guy. Meanwhile, film buffs, scouts and some talking heads don’t have him in that high of regard. 

I think NFL talent evaluators sometimes get caught in the trap of viewing a guy they want to like through the lens of what they think he can be if he both maximizes his potential AND is out in an ideal situation in terms of surrounding talent and system. The perfect scenario. Unfortunately, that perfect scenario rarely actually materializes because there's 31 other teams out there competing for that surrounding talent and coaches and scheming to beat you. You gotta look at what a guy is LIKELY to be in a real world NFL situation.

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4 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I am not going to jump on the bandwagon because of this article. However, we should listen to those that have been evaluating players more than those sitting behind a monitor showing us all his outstanding video clips.

 

Thing is he doesn't have any outstanding plays to drool over this year, yet here certain media guys are giving him the benefit of the doubt because they want the next golden boy The Golden Calf of Bristol type in the NFL, and he looks the part. Doesn't play like it but looks like it

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12 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I am not going to jump on the bandwagon because of this article. However, we should listen to those that have been evaluating players more than those sitting behind a monitor showing us all his outstanding video clips.

 

And yet just look at the reality that there are steals and busts in every NFL draft. Always has been, always will be.

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10 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I am not going to jump on the bandwagon because of this article. However, we should listen to those that have been evaluating players more than those sitting behind a monitor showing us all his outstanding video clips.

For whatever you think of Levis, anyone dumping on McCreight or bagging on him for being a "former" scout hasn't bothered to look at his career (and might not get it if they did). It's a dumb attitude to take.

Sean Payton is a fired OC too.

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