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Is baker the worst QB we have had?


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58 minutes ago, Cullenator said:

Jeff Lewis, Randy Fasani, and Brian St.Peirre all say "Hi!"

Did Lewis ever even start? St. Pierre actually balled the f out considering we grabbed him off the couch out of nowhere.  I remember that long Gettis play not too long ago.  

Clausen is the worst, post-Tommy Jake, and yea, Baker.  He's just really really bad.

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It's pretty apparent Baker never recovered from his shoulder injury. In his first few years I remember him slinging it so fast the screen refresh rate on my TV couldn't even capture the ball. His passes today look like dying quails. I don't think he's a bad QB, but he doesn't have the tools to be an NFL QB anymore. 

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49 minutes ago, BrisbanePanther said:

Ultimate test to determine his long someone's been a fan.

Randy Fasani instantly came to mind...and I'm not sure there's a close second.

Matt Moore is on that list, as is Chris Weinke.

This link tells why many long-term fans have had enough of the bargain-bin, "just manage the game and don't mess it up" QBs. Those names...just lol. Compare that to Green Bay's list for the same time period-- Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers (with a couple blinks by Jordan Love).

https://wkml.com/listicle/every-carolina-panthers-starting-quarterback-in-team-history/

Matt Moore? He's way up from the bottom 

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1 hour ago, Khyber53 said:

No, he's not even close. Mayfield no longer has any mojo or ability to push the ball downfield.

There's something broken in the kid. He needs to sit on the bench and find out who he is going to be. Time to move on to Darnold.

And yes, I know how down the barrel that sounds, but there it is.

 

Could be as simple as he’s playing for the Panthers. I mean the team doesn’t have a track record of good QB play. 

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